very nice indeed. much more solid than the R&P. no shakes. Now i can properly collimate my scope. before the collimator was very shakey and was just a rough collimation. abit heavier now. The sky didn't last long at all. I was shooting through the sky fogs till 2:30am until the sky was completely covered. only then i decided to give up. argh well, just wait for another 2 months before another clear sky