In keeping an open mind, I'm willing to consider the evidence you present, Clive, but who has the time? There is so much stuff there that it would take days to sort through and assess the quality of the sources, the relevance, the context, whether it's cherry picked information. That's a pretty big ask for an internet thread.
It's not unprecedented for countries to stage an attack on themselves that they then wrongly attribute to an enemy and use as grounds to invade (the Nazis did it). But the sheer number of people required to co-operate in such a huge conspiracy boggles the mind, and if true, I'm sure it will all come out eventually as the chances of a secret being kept decreases with the number of people who know it and time. The chances of some hundreds of people keeping it a secret for 15 years is minuscule and is decreasing all the time.
As yet do we have anyone credible primary sources who can say 'I was involved in that conspiracy and here's proof'?
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Originally Posted by AussieTrooper
We are taking the mickey, not attacking you. There's a difference.
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You know, I don't think there is. When everyone gangs up on someone to make jokes about them, I think that's pretty much the definition of bullying. It's possible to respectfully disagree without mocking. The man should be treated with respect whether or not you respect his views.
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