Just an update on this updating windows 7 crud. Apparently the problem appears again after doing the May updates, you now need to download KB3153199 and do the stand alone install of this in the same way by turning off auto updating as I showed prior. My machine that previously responded, stopped and I downloaded KB3153199 installed and it now works again. What a pain in the bum

You can download it from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=52232