Thanks again for the replys, it's been overcast so not done anything as yet. I am useing the T adaptor setup as in your pictures 1ponders but I had a 25mm eyepiece in the adaptor tube so that is where I went wrong I would say. No other ep's or barlow would work. Will post a pic tomorrow of the setup so you can see.
I realise the flash would be non affective in this situation...it was pointing in the wrong direction...thats why I pointed the spotty's on the front of my car at the moon.
Thanks again everyone.