[The_bluester (Paul)]

Yep. I am broadly aware of what vectoring is attempting to do, and I don't hold much hope of it actually achieving the end pushed by the libs.

Something they don't talk about is that until all other carrier services are out of the copper bundle, they can not even switch it on so the NBN services might even be slower than DSL (Download wise anyway)

Edited to add that the announcement came through that the former Comms minister became the pm while I wrote this. Not that I expect that to change the NBN, the have spent too long and made too much noise about making it "not like the ALP NBN" to und the complicated mess they have made it into.