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Ok I have bought the collimation ring and should have it Monday. In the meantime I have gone through all of Peter's thread on this subject and tried the Hall of Mirrors technique, barlowed my laser with two different barlows, tried the Cheshire again etc. The Cheshure seems to be my check point. I did have some good results with barlowing my laser, got good images of the baffle rings and centred all of that and surprise the Cheshire agree - the first time two different techniques agreed.
I will hold off on the Tak as I can't afford it right now, and I would have to get an adaptor at $ as well. Bintel and/or Andrews should rent out the Tak collimator.
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