thanks again Julian, clears up that suspicion
i just read back through the posts in this thread and Skywatch Dean has already given a good review;
"They (Andrews) also stock the "High Grade" HG series: these are about 1/2 the price of the MB's, and a lot lighter to hold/carry. Optically they are very good. I have had a pair of these for some time, and the only complaint I have is that the rubber "armour" around the barrel has come loose: they aren't waterproof any more!"
i wandered up some dry gullies, n Dean had already found the waterhole
