stewart
hahahahahaahah I use the kids as my purchase leeway
I learnt tonight maybe the aren't as interested as I thought and I got a scope for Christmas.
I'm not really into the club scene either but trying to read the stars is like reading Chinese to me at the moment
Plus the mount arghhhh more questions about it every time. need to find someone to help with the stars and mount.
Thank god for Jupiter it is my only friend at the moment!

but I think I may have caught mercury or Venus just as sun went down(according to stellarium)
Long steep learning curve for me
Troy.