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Originally Posted by jenchris
Even I am not entirely free of some emotive parts of same sex partnerships. Guys kissing makes me wince a little. Why it should I'm not sure. Just nurture saying it's not visually my thing I guess.
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I can sort of relate to that. I'd seen blokes kissing on TV but seeing it a meter from me was a new experience. It was all over so quick before I'd even had a chance to think 'yuk' I was already thinking 'well, that wasn't so bad'. I was visiting a friend who shared a house with a gay couple. We were sitting at the kitchen table talking to one of the blokes when his boyfriend came in to say good night. He wished us all well then gave his partner a quick good night peck, just like a straight couple would. It didn't hurt a bit - though it will never be a spectator sport
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Years later, but still a while ago, when I used to visit watering holes one of my Friday arvo drinking mates was a gay woman. She (and a few others) used to make an early start, I'd get in about 4.30-5.00 but the girlfriend was normally pretty late arriving (if she came at all). When she did there would be the normal 'hello' followed by a little peck - just like I would do with my partner and just as a straight couple who were also regulars in our group used to do. By that time all the bar stools were normally taken so the girlfriend would just stand next to her partner with her arm around her shoulder. I think I noticed it the first time it happened but by the third or fourth time it just didn't register. Getting used to being around gays is really that easy.
BTW can I tell a little story? It don't seem to fit anywhere but is too good to leave out. We are told that you really can't tell someone's sexuality just by looking at them and generally that is true. Sure there are a few blokes about with eye-liner and high heels and a few women with crew-cuts and tank tops (though some of them are straight!) but most gays look absolutely bog standard. I certainly can't pick most of them, especially women. So, what to make of this? A gay bloke I know loves touring on his motorbike (big BMW tourer). So one day he pulls up outside a pub in country Victoria where he is planning to stay the night. There are also a group of women bikers outside the pub and they turn out to be dykes on bikes. They invite him for dinner. Over dinner he was told 'oh yes, we knew you were gay before you even got off the bike'. WTF? He can't work it out and neither can my partner and I. Nothing about his bike, his leathers or helmet look even remotely 'suspicious'. When I first met him I started to wonder after I had talked to him for a couple hours, but even then I wasn't sure. How can you tell by watching someone park a bike??
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Originally Posted by jenchris
Suicide? Well I'm not in favour except for Euthanasia. It leaves behind too much hurt.
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I don't think anyone supports suicide! Not even the victims. The experts say that no one wants to die - they want the pain to stop and if death is the only option they feel they have left they will resort to that. I can relate to that. If you are after pain relief then a quick, reliable (or at least perceived to be reliable) exit is attractive, more attractive that putting yourself through agony to escape pain. That is why I believe that firearms and mental health problems don't mix well.