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Originally Posted by jenchris
Spears don't kill people.....
Inanimate objects do not by definition have a life of their own.
I owned various guns of many calibres; not one managed to pull its own trigger whilst loaded and pointed at someone.
Though I did manage to feed myself and my family.
Whilst in the services, I was qualified to the highest level with 9mm and 308.
Being shot is a great deterrent when you try to rob someone.
In Australia we are lucky to have a peaceful population.
This may not last. Keep you fingers crossed.
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Spot on.
When guns are removed entirely from a society, people adapt to use what they need to use to get the "job" done - there have been some absolutely abhorrently sickening murders where guns were not involved including sticks, rocks, knives, fists... There was a young girl recently here bludgeoned and tortured to death with a tree branch, after that tree branch was first used to inanimately rape her. IF there was a gun involved, at least her death may have been quick and less torturous.
Saying guns kill is the same as saying a spectacle frame can kill - both still need someone with the "right" mindset to actually perpetrate the crime, both will achieve the "goal".
The statistics on Australian death by firearms is unnaturally skewed BECAUSE of the relative lack of availability of firearms. I did an entire research project at university, involving more than just myself - that PROVED the statistics are skewed - in reality, guns death in Australia is almost exactly equal to that of gun death in the USA taking proportions of population etc into account - it varied by as little - if I recall correctly - as 1.7%, which showed the anti-gun statistics are artificially skewed, and the government "official" figures are too, especially when correlated against the actual state by state forensic records.
What it comes down to is this - the change of gun laws here did VERY VERY VERY little to reverse the trend on crime or suicide by firearm (and a few state Police officials recognise this fact and have OPENLY criticised the erroneous official figures) and only served the purpose of increasing revenue for the states and territories. Firearm ownership is UP (legal ownership and illegal ownership). Death by firearms remains steady.
What it boils down to is, humans will always find a way to hurt another human.