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Originally Posted by PCH
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And if nature decides that for the human race to procreate 'normally' it must include a man and a woman to further the species.
Anyone who says different is deceiving themselves.
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So this includes or excludes couples where one partner is infertile? I'm confused.
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Originally Posted by PCH
I'm not saying that they don't have rights and should be treated with respect in other facets of life. But I AM saying, it isn't normal for a child to be brought up by two men or women.
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NO, you are saying that "all I can say is that when a pair of guys or a pair gals get together and want to raise kids, any support I may have had for their rights stops right there". So you would like to take away, what you have conceded in your original statement, is one of their rights. You can't have it both ways, you can't say that you don't support their right without meaning that you would like to see it taken away.
Sort of like if I said that I don't support your right to free speech, wouldn't that necessarily mean that I would like you to shut up? I use this as an analogy only, of course you should be able to express your opinion. You should also own up to the fact that it's your opinion.
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Originally Posted by PCH
And it's not my opinion, so (Stuart) it's no use labelling me a bigot! - it's a fact of nature and there's no denying that.
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See above re it IS your opinion. If you espouse a bigoted viewpoint I will call you a bigot. You have aired what I, and many others here, have deemed to be a bigoted viewpoint, hence the label. I also notice that you didn't complain about being labelled homophobic, is this somehow less offensive to you?
What is a "fact of nature"? Aren't we, as a species, changing the rules all the time? In this case I think that you've mistaken a "fact of nature" for a norm of society, and only our society really, there are many other societies where other than the physical act of copulation the male is superfluous to the rearing of children. As none of can remember the moment of conception, what does it matter if you are brought up by two men, two women or one of both, as long as they are loving and caring?
Cheers
Stuart