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Originally Posted by Renato1
Hi Andy,
Now, you now you are being naughty claiming that Muller who did the BEST study was a climate skeptic - he was on record before doing the study saying it was okay to lie to get the AGW message across.
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*citation needed
Perhaps you are thinking of
a different Richard Muller than this one, who around 2011 was spewing just about every climate myth under the Sun? And being extremely offensive about various climate scientists too.
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Originally Posted by Renato1
And exactly how does citing the Berkley study address anything in the Australian article about raw temperature data being altered?
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Preferring the opinion of a random non-expert over professional Met Offices and independent data analyses does your 'skepticism' no favours. Marohasey is totally wrong.
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Originally Posted by Renato1
And your comment that I have misquoted the IPCC is quite frankly offensive, and demonstrably false.
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings but the IPCC doesn't agree with you about much. Can you show me where the IPCC actually supports your views, rather than cherry-picking snippets out of context, such as claiming the existence of a global warming (ocean, atmosphere, cryosphere) "pause" while ignoring repeated references to both continued ocean heat content rise (>90% of GW) and short-term heat exchange oscillations like ENSO (why IPCC warning against using short-term surface temperature trends).
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Originally Posted by Renato1
The 2006 Arctic Ice Free predictions - which everyone here seems to have forgotten about except for me...
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And there was me thinking you all though the ice was supposed to be gone in 2013
Even assuming you meant 2016:
Well, your sources:
Goddard (seriously, he's too cranky even for WUWT), and you believe him? Where is your skepticism? Do you believe everything on the Internet?
A BBC news article (great science source, that...) about Maslowski's 2016 +/-3 prediction I referenced earlier. The earliest published prediction of a sensible scientist, but much earlier than most cryosphere specialists expect.
On what planet is a 2016 +/-3 prediction falsified by 2014?. If in 2020, Maslowski is shown to be wrong, does that invalidate the rest of the cryosphere science community forecasting closer to mid-century?
And on what planet is Al Gore a cryosphere scientist?
I asked you for a scientific source which suggested that climate scientists in general were forecasting ice-free conditions by 2014. IPCC would do! Not a news article about the bottom error bar of the single most pessimistic projection... Where is your skepticism of the junk you're reading? I'm trying to help you here!