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Originally Posted by el_draco
From Earth Observatory,( http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=82094) one of MANY sites:
"After an unusually cool summer in the northernmost latitudes, Arctic sea ice appears to have reached its annual minimum extent on September 13, 2013. Analysis of satellite data by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) showed that sea ice extent shrunk to 5.10 million square kilometers (1.97 million square miles).
The extent of sea ice this September is substantially greater than last year’s record low. On September 16, 2012, Arctic sea ice spread across just 3.41 million square kilometers (1.32 million square miles)—the smallest extent ever recorded by satellites and about half the average minimum from 1981 to 2010.
Though less Arctic sea ice melted in 2013 compared to 2012, this year’s total is the sixth lowest in the satellite record. This year continues a long-term downward trend of about 12 percent Arctic sea ice loss per decade since the late 1970s—a decline that accelerated after 2007."
In short, you couldn't read a graph if my life depended on it But, you will ignore this and continue to twaddle on because... because.. The satellite imagery has been doctored OF COURSE!
Anyone with a cents worth of intelligence understands that modeling earths systems is an inexact science and any twit who expects the systems to respond by a specific date is just that, a twit.
However, its a hell of a lot easier to look at long term trends and get a pretty good idea whats happening, unless you have some vested interest for being a twit, of course.
Originally Posted by Renato1 http://www.iceinspace.com.au/vbiis/i...s/viewpost.gif
Thus the interpretations and subsequent predictions made from the ice data trend figures back in 2006 were entirely flawed. I can understand that, but you seem to be having the difficulty with it.
Flawed, only because they don't meet your head in the sand criteria for accurate
Originally Posted by Renato1 http://www.iceinspace.com.au/vbiis/i...s/viewpost.gif
The latest figures for the melting of the Greenland Ice sheet and the Antarctic Ice sheet, however, are truly alarming. At the current horrendous rate of melting, in a mere 100 years, Greenland will have lost 1% of its ice mass. And the Antarctic will lose 1% of it's ice mass in 2200 years. I'm not sure if I'll be able to sleep tonight.
Cheers,
Renato
Yeah, in whose fairyland? People like you like to pull random twaddle from totally discredited sources and promote it as the truth, yet you ignore the fact that every credible scientific body on the planet says this is real. Your agenda? Spreading doubt to undermine efforts by those who give a XXXXe about protecting the planet.
We are only just beginning to understand the potential of some of the feedback loops that operate on this planet and, if the science is even remotely accurate, we're in deep WITH NO WHERE ELSE TO GO. |
Hi Rom,
Climate Scientist predictions of Arctic Ice trends in 2006, were that the Arctic could be ice-free by 2013.
You do not believe that the prediction was a flawed prediction, when the very stuff you cite shows that there is abundant ice there. May I suggest that it isn't me with the head-in-the-sand, and who is having difficulty dealing with reality.
Well, they won't get caught out again
If you read to the bottom of this link, you'll see they are predicting it to go ice free for some of the year at some time in the 21st century.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...ge/sea_ice.php
As for the supposed "fairyland" and "random twaddle", you are most welcome to find different estimates as to how long it will take for the Greenland and Antarctic Ice Sheets to lose 1% of their mass. But instead, all you do is raise unsupported assertion that it is plainly wrong, with some kind of quasi-religious sermonizing fervor.
To each his own.
Cheers,
Renato