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Originally Posted by andyc
Connie Hedegaard of the EU:
“The European Union regrets the repeal of Australia's carbon pricing mechanism just as new carbon pricing initiatives are emerging all around the world,”
The state of carbon pricing: Around the world in 46 carbon markets
Former Conservative Environment Secretary John Gummer:
“Conservatives around the world are taking action on climate change, including Britain and Germany. It’s in the DNA of conservatives to hand on a better world to your children and I hate that Australia is letting down conservatives around the world.”
Heck, even the Australian Government's own webpages  :
"99 countries have pledged to limit their emissions. These account for over 80 per cent of global emissions and over 90 per cent of the global economy."
So really, no problem at all in supporting that statement. Although you might not read about that in the pages of The Australian!
The carbon price was working in that emissions, especially from the targeted electricity sector, had dropped over the period it was in effect, while Australia's growth was the 4th largest in the OECD. So there was no economic calamity. And it was revenue neutral to the vast majority of ordinary Australians thanks to the (still remaining) tax break.
And despite the ostriches in government and elsewhere, global heat content continues to rise, with the largest rise in the past 15 years. Surface temeperatures (the tiny purple bit of the energy balance in the attached graph) follow where overall heat content leads, whether or not the great El Nino of 1998 is used as a cherry-picked starting point to claim that global warming had suddenly stopped.
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Problem is Andy, you can argue till you're blue in the face, deniers are just that, deniers, pure and simple like fundamental creationists they will grab esoteric pieces of psudo-evidence and misrepresent them or their political allegiances are so rusted on it severely clouds their view of the strong evidence in front of them, to a point where they will find a flimsy "oh yeah? well" statement and bang on about one single tit bit because they think it must be the smoking gun, re: supposed Carbon14 dating anomalies that must disprove our geological dating methods
...maybe don't waste your time
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Mike