Yes Paul, I AM getting desperate, I want to use the scope one more time before I strip it for painting, plus I want to see who's scope dews first and what colour it is etc. Hmmmmm, maybe Elf and Tem can come and we make a three day weekend, plenty of river fun in the daytime, caravan's still warm from our last trip, I'll talk to here about it, ask Si to come and they can natter the whole weekend away.