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O.K so i had another go using the ruler as suggested, and yes it did make it easier for me and i think the collimation is good now, the moons of jupiter now looked like pin points without distortion ( as previously ) but as jupiter was now very low I could not get a real look at it, too much haze/cloud to look through as it was just after 1am.
Mars was very high and I took my first ever look at it with my 25mm and 9mm, conditions were i think reasonable, anyway it was interesting to see, i could just about make out some faint shadow but did not see any polar cap, but it was fun to see being my first time.
I might add my telescope had been inside for an hour or so and i took it out to do the collimation and took a quick look at mars while outside, so i doubt the scope had cooled down and I was on my balcony with the door open.
As Saturn was near Mars I thought i would have a peek, the last time I saw saturn through a scope was back in 1986, and then it was just with my 20 X 50 spotting scope.
With my 25mm at x 60 Saturn was beautiful to see, its been such a long time and i was not at all disappointed, even more beautiful than what i remembered.
I then put in the 9mm which gave me X 166, while the image was not as sharp as the 25mm it was still a lovely sight, especially considering the situation with the scope having just been taken outside about 20 minutes before.
Then the image in both the 9 and 25mm became foggy which I think may have been due to the humidity? ( i did not have the dew shield on as i was doing the collimation ) moments before the views were so much better, but i did not mind as it was getting late and i was making noise on the balcony and did not want to wake my my neighbours.
So while things started off badly they turned out much better.
ian
( looking forward to seeing saturn again, i even got my wife out to have a quick look, she loved seeing it )
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