Thanks John and Matt,
Using Geoff's Pentax's I have always thought very nice

indeed. I have as you know looked through many eyepieces.
Owned over 60 of them

Many are very nice and I to have had the nagler only bug
But I went of them when they started to go 1.25" the fields really curved a lot. And ER was tight i thought. I do though love Panoptics and have the 22 on that count.
But I am very much a Pentax fan and have been for a while.
But never owned them till now.
They as you know are rated about as goods as it gets in Eyepieces. But everyone is different.
Newbies may not go for them as 2 has cost me as much as a 12" Dob

from Andrews.
But I will do nothing but add Pentaxs to my eyepiece collection for ever more.