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I've been out for a while.....these are very good as long as you have a ' dark ' site to go to....any moon or excessive light pollution ruins it.
Mind you....I'm only using these at the moment on a TV76.....still has the ' port hole ' experience when viewing.....a larger refractor( 4" inch and upwards ) ...Acro' or ED/APO would really make these Bino's and eyepieces a winning combination
Viewing with a single Delos 17 is still a joy to use....I recommend them to anyone contemplating a purchase.
Flash.....
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