The only important question - shark or croc?

[josh]

I must know. I can no longer sleep.
Who would win in a fight between a twenty foot salt water croc and a twenty foot great white shark?
You have $50 to bet, whos gunna win?
Its not a cruel question as they have both been training for this one and there heading straigt for each other.
And yes its in the water
Ill be taking all bets. I'd start a poll but i dont know how.

[ving]

how deep is the water?

[davidpretorius]

shark, cos of its stamina, the croc would build up lactic acid too quick.

I also believe the great white, then the tassie devil and then the croc, in that order have the strongest jaw pressure.

something from school day ....hazy as they were!

[cjmarsh81]

Could be either. Whoever makes the first bite will win. However I will go with the shark. Simply because I don't think a Croc's jaws open wide enough to get the shark in. It is much easier for the shark to get his jaws around a croc.

[avandonk]

The shark has no chance as it is 'soft' and the croc is 'hard'. The shark has no hard skeleton. If a small shark (less than 3 meters) bothers you just give it a hard whack in the eye or face. Not a smack in the mouth as you might lose your hand and or more.
A big salty would have it for breakfast, if it could catch it.

Bert

[Miaplacidus]

How's taking bets on the tassie devil?

[slice of heaven]

I'll put a wager on the Great White if it's a fair fight, and fair dinkum. A 20 foot GW would weigh around 2 tonne, the croc I'll guess would weigh half that. The GW can munch large turtles like twisties so the crocs hide wont save him. If the croc grabs the shark first and tries to roll , that's 2 tonnes of fighting shark he's latched onto, he'll let go sooner or later and have to surface, then he's helpless and the GW can attack from below.
Long live the great white.

[gaa_ian]

Even as a loyal North Australian (home of the saltie) I would have to go for the great white.
That said though, i dont think they are on each others menu (opposite ends of the country for starters)

[ballaratdragons]

Not sure,

but I'd hate to be the referee :scared:

[Adrian-H]

CRIKEY LOOKA THOSE BIG JAWS ON THAT CROC!!! even if the shark wins, the shark is inferrior compared to a croc =p , the shark has the upper hand it being a water fight and being the amphibian, its not like its even to start with, now if they had a fight on land, the shark wouldnt even survive, the croc wouldnt even have to touch it. thus making the shark, INFERRIOR!! buwahahahahahha!!

[josh]

Im starting to go for shark as i think it may be the more angry of the two. A bit more of a brawler you know. And a bigger chompy mouth. But that being said, youre right about the sharks staying power, i have heard they tend to give up pretty quick after they have their first bash. The croc could be a bit more of a thinker and plan the fight alittle. And that skin is pretty tough.. hmm, ive got two for shark and two for croc at work
It all depends if the sharks have "freaken lasers on their freaken heads":D
And ving , i say the water is way over your noggen.
p.s No animals were hurt in the posting of this thread

[ving]

josh the reason i ask about depth of water is hat the shark isnt going to have problems holding its breath :P

[leon]

i reckon the shark would have the upper hand, if it could get the first bit in, if that didn't happen at least it could nick off quicker through the water. :whistle:

[Gargoyle_Steve]

A great white can create a bite pressure of 18 tons per square inch, so the crocs thick hide still isn't a consideration. Also the sharks teeth ARE designed to slice through and cut chunks of "whatever" away, a crocs teeth are actually quite badly spaced and they kill more by tearing and wrenching than "biting through" flesh as such. Even when they are fighting other large crocs they tend to win more by drowning their opponent than anything else.

I'd say the great white IS the favourite, but a big enough croc who could get his jaws on the shark AND get the first bite in might be a chance - percentage wise though it's the shark to win for my $50.

[josh]

I thought a croc could hold its breath for nearly an hour or so if lying still, is that right ? hmmm the water would have to be very deep so they have lots of room to duck and weave.
It seems the shark may have it, hey? Well theres a few fellas at work who may be unwilling to accept our findings.
I shall use all of the good points mentioned here to keep our debate going so we dont have to work. My boss dosnt seem to understand the importance of it all though.

[ving]

one does need to know these things... you know, incase it actually happens ;)

in the shallows the shark would probably still win. its more manouvreable. the crocs teeth are just designed to hold, nothing more.

[Miaplacidus]

I thought sharks had to keep moving through the water in order to breathe. An immobile shark suffocates, I suspect. Don't know how it would cope with the croc's "death roll".

[ving]

i suspect that sharks dont have to keep moving at all... I saw it in a doco once :)

[johnno]

Hi All,

I think whatever the winner,it is going to be in a world of pain.

I'll go even money.

Regards.
John

[Adrian-H]

you know when a shark is severed in half, it will still attack, i misslead you all with my last post, because i ask the question, dose it matter? what is so great about a fight between a croc and a shark, to see which one is stronger proves to you what? how often do you see sharks and crocs fight eachother? never? maybe because there is no reason, so why should there be a reason to see a croc and a shark?, well i guess thats entertainment for a croud, like i see the violence is entertaining for most of the population. , but not for me.

[wraithe]

when i was younger...hmmm wont say how long ago but, i got taken down to the wyndham meat works out flow.. yes they use to wash everything out to sea then...and got to see crocs and sharks feeding at the same time...i will deffinately put my money on the croc...they where the masters of that out flow and the sharks came out with lots more cuts and bruises than the crocs...
but i deffinately will not go swimming with either of them...

[Mr Bob]

Croc - They are intelligent enough to stay away from the 'danger end' whereas a shark just wades on in (with its eyes closed) hoping that its teeth connect with something. Mind you I have never seen sharks fighting so my theory is based soley on what I have seen on the telly.

[Mr Bob]

Sharks have no swim bladder, they have to keep moving or they sink like a stone.

[josh]

I was wondering when someone would bring that up.
Thats why movies never have any fighting in them, cause none of us would ever enjoy seeing violence:D
I bet you look

[ving]

i have see a doco with crocs in africa. they attack massive hoards of umm water buffalo i think it was and often end up with hoof embedded in thier heads... not that intellegent really :P