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tilbrook@rbe.ne
11-10-2012, 11:48 PM
Hi,

Well, my orion cooler box arrived today, so i decided to give it a quick test.

Not ideal conditions, windy and cold so it was a bit difficult to gauge it's true performance. Once I had installed the camera and let it cool for an hour, inside temp -8.6c outside +5.8c.
Balance was an issue, it required another 2.5kgs counter weight. I hear people saying, too much weight on HEQ Pro 5 mount, the main bearing is massive so I have no concern, I would rather balance properly and take the stress from the drives.
The standard focuser on the BINTEL F/4 coped well with the weight, I defocused on a star and placed slight pressure on the assembly, very little flexure.
I hear you say, you can't see to focus, with camera in the cooler box, I used live view and have a remote monitor in the observatory.
It takes a while to install the camera and get it setup, but this will become quicker when i get used to it.
The only problem I found is the the internal external temp sensors are the wrong way round, no biggy, just need to remember out is in.

The image of NGC 253 is 8 minute subs, a total of 48 minutes, no darks flats or bias, I wanted to stack and see how it would come up.

You be the judge.

Also a single 8 minute sub, so you can see how it came out of the camera.
The stars, are less than perfect, as the scope was been blown about.

When I get a warm night, with no wind I'll do another test and post it.

Cheers,

Justin.

jjjnettie
12-10-2012, 01:12 AM
:) Nice one.
Can't wait to find out how it handles an Aussie Summer.

RobF
12-10-2012, 01:51 AM
That's a top shot of 253 Justin. Have you got any shots to compare with/without the cooling?

Larryp
12-10-2012, 07:36 AM
Looking good, Justin:thumbsup:

tilbrook@rbe.ne
12-10-2012, 06:35 PM
Thanks Laurie!



Thanks Rob!

Not as yet, waiting for a warm night, to do comparison shots.



Thanks jjj!

I think it will have it's limitations, the canon 1100D perfroms quite well up 5c, did a test today with the outside temp being an average of 18c. The best I could get is a total drop of 15c after 1.5 hours.

So I think orions claim of up to 22c drop is very optimistic!

Cheers,

Justin.

David Fitz-Henr
12-10-2012, 11:20 PM
Nice shot Justin, not bad for only 6 subs! Why not process darks / flats as well though - even cooled CCD images are improved with these. It will be interesting to see the comparison shots with / without cooling.

tilbrook@rbe.ne
13-10-2012, 08:22 AM
Thanks David!

That was an initial test, Iv'e taken new darks, bias and flats last night wanted to do these around 0c with the cooler. Now all I need is a warmer night to do the comparison.

Cheers,

Justin.

Rigel003
13-10-2012, 10:25 AM
Great result, Justin. Looks like a promising device. The single frame is very noise free.

tilbrook@rbe.ne
13-10-2012, 03:18 PM
Thanks Graeme!

Fingers crossed, it will do the job on warm nights.

Cheers,

Justin.

Stevec35
14-10-2012, 11:48 AM
That looks pretty good to me Justin. Nice colours and I can't see any noise. In fact it's a very good NGC 253 for such a short exposure.

Cheers

Steve

astronobob
14-10-2012, 03:03 PM
Interesting what a dozen fewer degrees can make Justin, very benificial seeing such a smooth result, yep, Must investigate these cooler devices, never heard of them before ?
Nice going ! !

tilbrook@rbe.ne
14-10-2012, 06:17 PM
Thanks Bob!

The main issue with the cooler box is counter balance with the extra weight, especially on a newtonian.



Thanks Steve!

Being able to push past 5 minute subs is certainly helping with the images.

Cheers,

Justin.

atalas
17-10-2012, 06:57 AM
Great effort Justin.

tilbrook@rbe.ne
19-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Thanks Louie!

Cheers,

Justin.

Ross G
19-10-2012, 09:32 PM
Very nice galaxy photo Justin.

Good luck with the cooler box.

Ross.

tilbrook@rbe.ne
20-10-2012, 01:39 AM
Thanks Ross!

strongmanmike
20-10-2012, 08:59 AM
Looking promising Justin :thumbsup:...don't ya love it when a satellite drives itself right through the middle of your galaxy....:rolleyes:

Mike

tilbrook@rbe.ne
20-10-2012, 05:16 PM
Thanks Mike!

And yeh, drives through them like the sword of damocles!

The only one I've kept is of an iridium flare earlier this year.

Cheers,

Justin.