Sun sets on Queensland's daylight savings party

[supernova1965]

Great news maybe we will have heard the last of daylight saving finally:D

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-16/sun-sets-on-queensland27s-daylight-savings-party/4263742

Please I don't want this to be political it was only after I posted it that I saw the possible lead in so please treat it as I meant it just about daylight saving in QLD.

[[1ponders]]

Woo hoo .... no more worrying about faded curtains. Lets hope its finally dead and buried Warren.


But somehow I doubt it.:rolleyes:

[hotspur]

daylight saving is a curse-why anyone would want to have it,I see many on the Gold coast want it-I think QLD should give the Gold Coast to NSW,its only a headache QLD would be better off without it,and let it become part of NSW.

[tlgerdes]

I think this should be mandated at a federal level (that DST continues for all), it annoys the hell out of me the way you Queenslanders think that you can ruin a nice summer night and force the morning light into my bedroom at unearthly hours.:P:poke::poke::poke::poke:

[supernova1965]

We aren't worried that you want it. It just doesn't work up here:P

[astronut]

I wish they would get rid of it in NSW.:mad2:

[pgc hunter]

In Brisbane the sun rises at 4:45am and sets at 6:45pm in mid-summer which IMO makes far less sense than a DST-adjusted 5:45am-7:45pm. What is the point in the sun rising so early when the vast majority of the population is asleep? Why not "transfer" that hour of daylight to the evening when people are active?

If anything, Brisbane is slightly too far east for their current timezone. I think shifting SEQ's timezone ahead half hour to GMT +10h30m would match Brisbane's longitude much better. The current solar noon is at approx 11:40am, a half hour timezone shift would bring it to 12:10pm with a corresponding shift in SR-SS times to a somewhat more logical timeframe.

[MrB]

You would rather that than an 'extra' hour of viewing/imaging in the evening? Interesting.
I prefer having the longer evening so I get more scope time before having to get some sleep for work in the morn.

[pgc hunter]

I don't observe if I have an early start the next morning so it wouldn't make a difference from that respect. I would find the early sunrise to be very annoying and if I'm working late and want to observe afterwards, later sunsets/sunrises are preferred.

[Rod771]

Daylight saving is the best!!! Love it.:thumbsup:

[supernova1965]

For you I am sure it is but in QLD it doesn't work and we have tried it it is a royal pain in the you know where

[erick]

Woooh! That will be an even more "robust" discussion! :D

[acropolite]

I'm with Terry, I fail to see why you guys enjoy seeing daylight at 4:30AM and the welcome a plunge in to darkness just after 6:30PM, I'd much rather see an extra couple of hours tacked on to enjoy later in the day as we do in Tassie, perfect time to go for a bike ride, sailing, fishing, mow the lawns or dig in the garden. :whistle:

Perhaps Campbell Newman will fix it, after all he's a good ole Tassie Boy, all that's needed is some financial incentive. (did I mention I'm glad he's up there and not here!! :P)

[erick]

Worth considering is the impact of latitude. In Queensland, one minute is is bright, next it is pitch black. Yikes! The Sun plunges rapidly. Southern Australia has a much longer dusk.

Yes, I'm a Daylight Saving supporter. One reason - more time if you have to get from work to a location to setup for the evening's observing.

[scagman]

I also agree with Terry, having the extra 1hr after work to do stuff outside is great.

Why do Q'landers not want daylight savings?

[Larryp]

You don't say why it doesn't work

[erick]

From my Queensland background, I can say one problem is those working the land who work from sunrise to sunset. Add in daylight saving and they are not home in time for the 7pm ABC news.

[steve000]

Thumbs up from me on that one.

[Rob_K]

"The 1992 referendum on daylight saving was defeated with 54.5 per cent of voters rejecting the shift, despite 51 of the 89 seats voting in support of the change."

The 2007 A C Neilson poll saw 59% in favour of DST, 30% against, 11% neutral or ‘don’t know’ – total for all Qld. SEQ was heavily in favour 69/20, the rest of Qld 52/36 against. (Source: Premier’s Department, Qld.)

"Last year (2010), Ms Bligh sought the community view on daylight saving, acknowledging that the population of southeast Queensland had grown markedly since 1992. More than 74,000 Queenslanders voted through a community consultation process and of those, 64 per cent supported a daylight saving trial and 63 per cent supported a referendum." Another A C Neilson poll.

Quotes are from Brisbane Times.

I'd suggest you're only representing one Queensland view Warren. Even outside SEQ, there seems to be a big block of the population in favour, albeit in a minority. :shrug:

Cheers -

[steve000]

How much time and money was wasted on the debate.... its like the gay debate, who cares what they do stop wasting money that needs to go elsewhere. Our country is not lined with gold, our income is not infinite. Stop debating useless topics and move on to better roads, health etc. I know its not that simple in many ways. Take a internet and mail in vote then go with majority and end of story, it takes like a week to do that.

[supernova1965]

Because up here in mid summer the sun sets at 7pm to 7.30 already so with DLS it would be 8pm to 8.30 I think that is enough reason not to want it

[supernova1965]

well if SEQ wants it let them form their own state an we will be the state of FNQ:D:P


We have had so many referendums over the years and all have said no to DLS that should be the end of it

[Suzy]

Try putting a child to bed when the sun is still up. Been there, done that.:mad2: It was the bane of most parents.
And from further personal experience- I was never motivated to start dinner while the sun was still up so everyone went hungry until late.:ashamed: It pained me to admit that, I'm just too honest for my own good. :lol:

Good riddance to it I say. ;)

[Larryp]

I guess I'm the opposite,Suzy. I don't like waking up at 4.30 am because its daylight. Can't say I ever had problems with my kids going to bed at 8.30pm. Guess we all have different likes and dislikes-Cheers!

[Baddad]

Hi Suzy, and everyone,:)

I can relate to nearly all the arguements, for and agin. Done the child thing as Suzy mentions. Lived in Brisbane, lived in Townsville.

I am kind of on the fence with this. However the people who have solar power installed will be happier with the extra daylight. LOL

Now I can feel the tomatoes being hurled my way.

Cheers

[Suzy]

:D
7.30pm for the littlies. :P
But you're right too- we can't all have the same requirements and likes. ;) And this topic will always raise a heated debate because of it. From what I remember and my experience, I think it was the parents with kids that had the biggest problem with it.

Marty, with the price I paid for tomatoes a couple of weeks ago, you'll keep.:P:lol:

For me, I would like the sun to come up around 5 and disappear around 6.
Edit: Wait.. 5 is too generous, 6am is better! :D
Tho to me it matters not, I sleep right thru the sun.:lol:

[pgc hunter]

Gentlemen, my name is not Terry ;)




There is no extra daylight with daylight savings. Rather it's a shift in the daylight hours.

[pgc hunter]

Lol when I was little I used to argue with my parents about it at bedtime .... "But mum, IT IS NOT NIGHT"!

[Suzy]

I rest my case. :innocent:
Wooops, wonderful accidental pun use there (rest). :D

[pgc hunter]

:D ah being a child, being sent to bed when it's NOT NIGHT lol

[scagman]

Sorry Sab, I didn't bother to go back and see who posted the orignial, I just went off Phil's post.