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quicksimon
22-02-2005, 04:25 AM
Cheers for the second pic compliments guys. Have you stil got your scouse accent Westsky la? Jack, you've gotta get into astrophotography its awsome. I've never used the toucam but I recommend the Meade LPI. Check out this pic from last night, Jupiter with Ganymede and its shadow. You can just see IO and europa if you look very hard.
Cheers

westsky
22-02-2005, 05:26 AM
never had one I came from the posh end of town :-))
nice shot

David

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 05:41 AM
Cheers Westsky. There's a posh end!:D I bet the skies are better down under

iceman
22-02-2005, 06:14 AM
Awesome shot, well done simon! With the rate of your improvements, you'll be a pro in no time!

Excellent work!

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 07:02 AM
Thanks a lot ice man

Yeah I was well pleased with that one, never seen a shadow on jupiter before nevermind capture it. Its clear tonight although there's a near full moon. I'll try to get a few sneeky pics in before it gets too cold for my mum:cold:
Check out this saturn from last night. Its not processed at all.
Cheers

[1ponders]
22-02-2005, 09:12 AM
Look out the Dobs are takin' over. :D Top shot Simon:cool2: Better than I ever managed with the LPI.

rumples riot
22-02-2005, 09:41 AM
Nice shots Simon; particularly the saturn image.

I took the liberty of just tweeking your Jupiter image with RGB shift in registax3. I think it looks a little better.

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 09:47 AM
Thanks Paul
These pics where taken through thin cloud and jupiter was pretty low down so I recon with time the're going to get better. I'm going to look into buying a toucam in the near future i think also. What would you say you get the best pics from your Toucam or your cannons:camera:

Cheers

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 09:59 AM
AWESOME:eyepop:
Thanks for that Paul. I'll give that a go myself. It looks much better. The cloud bands, shadow and moons look much sharper. I'm learning loads because of you guys.:2thumbs:
Cheers

[1ponders]
22-02-2005, 10:11 AM
For plantetary shots to start out with Simon, definately the ToUcam. I took 250 shots with my canon 300D the other night and ditched the lot. I've found its a whole new ball game. You need short enough exposures to capture relatively still, clear images, yet long enough for the CCD to capture it.

I was trying Positive Eyepiece Projection with the canon with really long focal length and very slow f/ratio (I don't have the exact figures on me at the moment but somewhere round F10 m and f/50 - 100). Thought if I captured enough I could registax them. Unfortuanely my exposure times were too long, even keeping them to a minimum (1/10 sec) I couldn't get a still image. They were all blurred through atmoshperic motion. I was using the hacked firmware so I could use ISO 3200 and mirror lock up. I'll either have to shorten my focal length or use a longer focal length eyepiece. When I get home I'll dig up the details and post them if you're interested

Keep going with what you're doing. If I can suggest, open up your Saturn image in registax again, go to the waveletting page, open up the historgram dialogue box and using the blue slider on the right bottom, drag it to the left to reduce the blue in your image. I think You might be surprised at the change.

Clear skies
Paul

Comet Hunter
22-02-2005, 10:29 AM
Great shots Simon, you're improving by the day - Well Done!!

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 10:31 AM
Cheers for the info paul. It is a little on the blue side isn't it, i'll give it a tweeking in registax as you said cheers. If you could post the details that would be great. All the info helps a lot. Don't go to too much trouble though.
Cheers

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 10:34 AM
Cheers Andrew. I won't be impoving tonight though because those white fluffy things are hanging around:cloudy:
Cheers

Fil
22-02-2005, 10:48 AM
What you really need is for me to pop round with one of the laptops, so you dont need to run a 4m usb cable, and freeze your mum in the process :D

Comet Hunter
22-02-2005, 10:48 AM
Simon, in the wavelets tab of registax open up the Histogram section - then just play around with the sliders

Here's a quick play I did..

[1ponders]
22-02-2005, 10:58 AM
That looks better Andrew. Maybe even slide the red down a bit as well.

Simon, a couple of other things you might consider trying is redo the lot but when you get to the "Optimize" tab do a reference frame of around 10% of the total frames. Follow the instructions that come up on the screen. You may find a big difference. Alternatively when you finish your waveletting etc form normal processing, save the image and then do a realign with processed. You will probably find with the resultant image you will have to lower the values on your wavelet sliders when it is finished. Save this image and compare with the first to see if there is any improvement. I often do at least 3 - sometimes 8 - different processes with each avi to get the best result. Go here to check out details of some of the settings I'm using. though they do vary considerably from night to night.

Clear Skies

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 11:06 AM
Everyone let me introduce you to my mate from down the road phil. I told him about the tips I was getting from the forum. Cheers phil I didn't know you had a lap top. That would be great though if you could come around and give me a hand with it cheers. Thanks for tweeking my saturn Andrew, that looks awesome, much more natural. I don't know why the lpi takes them blue, still learning about the settings. The first pic was a normal yellow then the rest blue. Thanks again

Simon

quicksimon
22-02-2005, 10:32 PM
Thanks Paul

This might sound a bit stupid but where is the 'optimise' tab :confuse3:
I'm new to the LPI and registax I had a look but can't find it. Also to obtain these pics I didn't save them as avi's but as bmp's. I'm new to avi's , bmp's and jpegs. If I'm right I think the lpi takes pics as the planet floats across the screen and selects the best one then saves it as a single bmp. I might be wrong. Is it better to save as avi's. Sorry if I sound a bit basic :ashamed:

[1ponders]
22-02-2005, 11:22 PM
What program did you use to capture the images? Autosuite? If you are and you're saving the images one by one, right? Then when you open them into registax and you align them you then move on to the optimize page then to the stacking page then to the waveletting page. I do my registax processing page by page. Make sure the tick is taken out of the automatic box and manual box at the top of the alignment page. Then whan you click "align", the alignment stops when its finished and you click the "limit" button under the alignment one. this then takes you to the "optimize" page. This is where you will find the "reference frame" button. Doing it page by page give me more options in adjusting the image. Don't worry about mucking around with the resampling and drizzling yet, or the prefilters unless you just want to see what they do. Same with the stacking page. Infact I just click "optimize and stack" after the reference frame is completed.

I've had a bit of a play with yours, enlarged it colour adjustment only in registax. I pushed the waveletting a bit much, but there's still a lot of detail that could be brought out.

quicksimon
23-02-2005, 09:11 AM
Paul that Saturn picture you have processed for me is awesome. I never thought that i would take a pic that would look as good as that, and its only the 2nd night of using the lpi. Due to my lack of knowledge so far of taking pics all i have been doing is picking the best of the bunch and playing with the wavelets. I'll go through the instructions you have given me now to see what I can do. I appreciate the help a lot . Thanks:D
Simon

ving
23-02-2005, 09:55 AM
dobs rule!!!! :)
awsome pics ther simon!

quicksimon
23-02-2005, 10:17 AM
Cheers Ving
I'm hoping the're gonna get better when I get the hang of the software :)

ving
23-02-2005, 10:26 AM
if thats not the best you can do then i cant wait for you to get the hang of it! :)

quicksimon
23-02-2005, 10:55 AM
Cheers
Yeah to be honest I haven't got a clue about registax I've just been doing a few tweeks on the wavelets and histogram but I can't seem to stack and align the pics. Its probably something simple I haven't done:confuse3:

Comet Hunter
23-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Just keep playing with the settings Simon, seeing what difference each one makes, who'll get the hang of it :computer: :bashcomp:

quicksimon
23-02-2005, 11:57 PM
Cheers Andrew
Yeah I'll keep playing with the settings and I'm gonna ask my mate fil who's a bit of a computer wiz to give me a hand with it. Been playing with saturn I did and its looking much better. I'm thinking of buying a *3 Barlow so I can get bigger pics
Cheers