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astro_south
20-04-2006, 04:14 PM
Just come through from a fellow member (Peter Marples) of the Southern Astronomical Society:


Members and friends of the SAS,

Thanks to the efforts of our member in Japan Mr Ikufumi Makino, the memory and achievements of our dear friend Erwin Rene Van der velden will now be etched in the heavens forever . This week minor planet MPL 14664 has been named Vandervelden in his honour.

Not long after Erwin passed away Renato and I were asked by Ikufumi if we would put together a citation that could be presented for consideration of naming a minor planet . A close friend of Ikufumi's and a prolific minor planet discoverer Mr Urata would consider presenting minor planet 1999 BY25 to be named in honour of Erwin. A process was then undertaken that involves a committee from the International Astronomical Union see http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/info/HowNamed.html

It is now official and you can see details of this 17th magnitude Near Earth Object at http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db_shm?sstr=14664

The link will no doubt be placed on our webpage, so at anytime you can see where 14664 Vandervelden is.

The official citation is still to be released and will be made available as soon as possible.

14664 Vandervelden is a 17.6 magnitude object now in Lupus at a distance from the Earth of about 360million kilometres and currently shares its position in the sky not far from Jupiter, this I am sure would have been something Erwin would have been particularly proud of.

Those who are suitably equipped I throw out the challenge to image 14664 Vandervelden, and/or make a movie if its movement and send the same to me for presentation in Event Horizon and to his family who will be here in July. I have several images I have taken and will present these in the next Event Horizon.

Many of us still miss Erwin terribly, please join us in congratulating Erwin's family, knowing that Erwin's life and achievements were very significant and are now recognised in 14664 Vandervelden.

Thanks
Peter


...perhaps a fitting challenge for some of the imagers around here too!

davidpretorius
20-04-2006, 04:52 PM
awesome!

well done guys.

now, for the challenge i would be assuming that at 17th mag, long exposure only????

[1ponders]
20-04-2006, 04:57 PM
Brought a tear to the eye and a lump to the throat. Congratulations Erwin :clap: A very fitting tribute. Thank you to everyone who worked to bring this about, and thanks Andrew for letting us know.

Three cheers for Erwin

Hip Hip :party2:
Hip Hip :party2:
Hip Hip :party2:

wavelandscott
20-04-2006, 05:25 PM
What a great tribute! Good work to all who were involved!

xstream
20-04-2006, 06:12 PM
Yes, a wonderful tribute to Erwin who was most worthy of this honour.

Striker
20-04-2006, 06:57 PM
Doesn't this just make you feal all warm and fuzzy.

"Tooo Erwin".

h0ughy
20-04-2006, 07:13 PM
Well done, what an amazing tribute. will that name be automatically updated for minor planets into say Starry night pro etc, at Mag 17 it will be the only way to find it!

Dennis
20-04-2006, 07:44 PM
Wow - what a fitting tribute to a wonderfully talented young man who brought so much to our hobby in his time on Earth. What a lovely way to remember Erwin; his talent, his contribution, his infectious enthusiasm and his prodigious astronomical exploits and achievements.

Cheers

Dennis

gaa_ian
20-04-2006, 07:57 PM
What a great tribute, Erwin certainly has his place in the heavens :thumbsup:

jjjnettie
21-04-2006, 12:11 AM
How very cool!
For Erwin to have gained that much respect from the World's Astronomical Community is such an acheivement.

iceman
21-04-2006, 05:46 AM
Excellent news!

Itchy
24-04-2006, 08:16 AM
This is really great news, and a great tribute to an amazing imager.

We will always miss you Erwin.

fringe_dweller
24-04-2006, 01:11 PM
Thankyou for letting us all know that astro_south, thats a wonderful and fitting tribute.

Robert_T
24-04-2006, 03:33 PM
A good call this one - to an amazing and clearly deserving individual!

mattweather
24-04-2006, 04:18 PM
Where is this planet located?

Matt

astro_south
24-04-2006, 04:28 PM
from the NASA site above....

*********************************** *******************
Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A._(ICRF/J2000.0)_DEC APmag
*********************************** *******************
2006-Apr-24 00:00 14 52 57.21 -39 12 57.4 17.52
2006-Apr-25 00:00 14 52 02.04 -39 13 25.0 17.51
2006-Apr-26 00:00 14 51 06.23 -39 13 39.9 17.50
2006-Apr-27 00:00 14 50 09.83 -39 13 42.1 17.48
2006-Apr-28 00:00 14 49 12.92 -39 13 31.6 17.47
2006-Apr-29 00:00 14 48 15.54 -39 13 08.4 17.46
2006-Apr-30 00:00 14 47 17.78 -39 12 32.6 17.45
2006-May-01 00:00 14 46 19.69 -39 11 44.2 17.44
2006-May-02 00:00 14 45 21.33 -39 10 43.3 17.43
2006-May-03 00:00 14 44 22.79 -39 09 29.9 17.43
2006-May-04 00:00 14 43 24.10 -39 08 04.2 17.42
2006-May-05 00:00 14 42 25.36 -39 06 26.3 17.41
2006-May-06 00:00 14 41 26.61 -39 04 36.4 17.41
2006-May-07 00:00 14 40 27.92 -39 02 34.5 17.40
2006-May-08 00:00 14 39 29.36 -39 00 20.9 17.40
2006-May-09 00:00 14 38 30.99 -38 57 55.7 17.40
2006-May-10 00:00 14 37 32.86 -38 55 19.2 17.40
2006-May-11 00:00 14 36 35.04 -38 52 31.5 17.40
2006-May-12 00:00 14 35 37.60 -38 49 33.0 17.40
2006-May-13 00:00 14 34 40.58 -38 46 23.7 17.40
2006-May-14 00:00 14 33 44.05 -38 43 04.0 17.40
2006-May-15 00:00 14 32 48.06 -38 39 34.2 17.40
2006-May-16 00:00 14 31 52.67 -38 35 54.5 17.41
2006-May-17 00:00 14 30 57.93 -38 32 05.2 17.41
2006-May-18 00:00 14 30 03.89 -38 28 06.5 17.42
2006-May-19 00:00 14 29 10.61 -38 23 58.9 17.43
2006-May-20 00:00 14 28 18.15 -38 19 42.6 17.43
2006-May-21 00:00 14 27 26.55 -38 15 18.0 17.44
2006-May-22 00:00 14 26 35.86 -38 10 45.4 17.45
2006-May-23 00:00 14 25 46.13 -38 06 05.2 17.46
2006-May-24 00:00 14 24 57.41 -38 01 17.8 17.47

[1ponders]
24-04-2006, 04:29 PM
It's a Near Earth Object (asteroid) Matt and you can find some details about it here

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db_shm?sstr=14664

mattweather
24-04-2006, 04:40 PM
That must be our new planet or something?

astro_south
26-04-2006, 11:08 AM
some more from Peter Marples of SAS:

You will note the citation says (1466) Erwin ... not really sure why as it is officially (14664) Vandervelden, it was unable to be called Erwin as a very similar name existed and confusion would have been have been a problem, as it is there is another asteroid called van der velde. Further you will note the citation had to say a lot in a very short sentence. Several other more detailed drafts were rejected for being too long, so we had to ensure we got the information we needed across.
I note that Minor Planet data upgrades for several Astronomy software programmes now have 14664 Vandervelden included.
For those with the sky go to http://www.bisque.com/thesky/tom/asteroidold.asp#Special%20Case%20Mi nor%20Planets then go to Lowell Observatory link it will automatically give you the zipped 20 meg file, save it then unzip it, replace the existing file astorb in the sky extended minor planets directory with the new one (which will be about 67meg), it is useful to do this time to time as asteroid elements are upgraded very often, and if you intend to image it you will need the position.
For those with other programmes go to http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/Ephemerides/SoftwareEls.html


Here is the citation announced on M.P.C. 5613 dated 2006 APR.13,

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(14664) Erwin = 1999 BY25
Discovered 1999 January 25 by T. Urata at Oohira.
Erwin Van der Velden (1966-2005) was an active and valued member of the Brisbane and Southern (Australian) Astronomical Societies. He developed supreme imaging techniques for planetary and deep sky objects taken by a Digital SLR camera and a Web-Cam.

Thanks indeed,
Peter Marples



Peter also reminded me of the other significant aspect of this object - it was discovered on the 25th of Jan.....Erwin's Birthday!

tornado33
26-04-2006, 04:15 PM
Finder chart for it here
http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Yourtel?elements=14664+Vandervelden +53800+3.1466149+0.05701130+15.8751 5+7.89986+332.90705+243.7562800+12. 60+0.15+MPC39894&aim=10&z=1&edump=-xe
Scott

rogerg
27-04-2006, 01:53 AM
I have managed to successfully find and image 14664 (Vandervelden) tonight, and have posted 2 images and an animated GIF on my website.

I'm quite new to finding Minor Planets and as such am not greatly experienced to produce a wonderful image, but here's something. The images contain objects down to 19.6 Mag as far as I can tell, but in the processed version to look "nice" objects appear very faint including 14664.

My website has 2 images, one is a "nice" photoshop-ed version, the other is a raw image from Astrometrica (which I used to analyse the images).

http://www.rogergroom.com/rogergroom/esh_rog_item.jsp?Item=280

Now, I'm dead tired and have work early in the morning so must go...

Roger.

h0ughy
27-04-2006, 07:27 AM
I tips me hat to ya! congratuations on capturing this object and well done, in my books your a legend at 17 mag i thought this was going to be very hard to get (for me anyway). :thumbsup: ;)

iceman
27-04-2006, 07:30 AM
Simply amazing Roger, very well done!

Dennis
27-04-2006, 08:13 AM
Great capture and really nice animation - well done, now go get some sleep!

Cheers

Dennis

Itchy
27-04-2006, 09:02 PM
Great work Roger

Thanks

leon
09-01-2008, 03:25 PM
What a wonderful tribute, I did not know him, but it seems he contributed much to the astronomical community, and will be sadly missed.:)

Leon :thumbsup:

Outbackmanyep
09-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Thats a great honour! Well deserved!

PeterM
14-09-2015, 09:11 PM
Ten years ago this month our dear friend Erwin Vandervelden left us at age 39.
A member and contributor to Ice In Space, The Southern and Brisbane Astronomical Societies and at the time easily one of the very best amateur astro imagers on the planet.
Obsessed - probably, having incredible skill -without a doubt, particularly with planetary images Erwin was held in very high regard by many across the planet. I reopen this thread to say how much he is still missed and can only wonder just what he might have been posting here today.
Attached is a pic of several of us at Leyburn last weekend around Erwins resting place.
Two things are certain, he is well remembered and his spirit is felt under those beautiful crisp Leyburn skies.