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strongmanmike
06-02-2012, 10:40 PM
Well, like for many others on the east coast, the weather finally cleared here in Newcastle on Sat and Sun nights :clap:
Warm weather was on the table but nothing a cold beer (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141334067/original) doesn't sooth :lol: :thumbsup: Saturday had a bit of annoying cloud floating around on occassions which were a pain (and of course only appeared right as I started my first exposure bracket :rolleyes: ) but Sunday night was perfect, even the seeing wasn't too bad, still only average but at least not pure soup :rolleyes: The NJP mount even loaded up like a Donkey was like a laser guided missile (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141334127/original) all night (without PEC)
Anyway....
Here is the Vela Super Nova remnant ...probably like you haven't seen it before :question: as once again I have used narrowband data to produce an RGB like result :scared3:
Full frame Image (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141333826/original) (50%) - try shrinking it in your browser so it fits on your screen :thumbsup:
Close up of my favourite bit (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141333841/original) showing the details in the amazing filaments (75%)
Blue Poles (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141367446/original)
High Res Negative (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141368007/original)
Who knows...and I know it would be rather strange for me to do :rofl:...may even produce another version in the coming days :P
MIke
Rigel003
06-02-2012, 10:47 PM
What, no animals? It's a spectacular image, Mike. Seems all reds and blues with only the tiniest hint of green.
Paul Haese
06-02-2012, 11:01 PM
Noice. :)
h0ughy
06-02-2012, 11:20 PM
brilliant Mike love the details and the tendrils. some of the stars look a little burnt out - was that hard to control with the f ratio of the scope and the exposure?
strongmanmike
06-02-2012, 11:28 PM
Ah yes I can see animals but I thought you all would be animal'd out after my Rosette :lol: There is a bit of green I thought actually, not dominant but subtle
Mike
Cheers Dave :thumbsup:
I wanted the stars to look bright on this one, images I have seen in the past of this area by Malin and others always had the stars looking sharp and bright, helps to give the image a sense of depth...?..well that's my idea anyway :P
Mike
alan meehan
07-02-2012, 07:17 AM
Nice shot Mike detail looks amazing ,looks like your enjoying that beer
AL
multiweb
07-02-2012, 07:50 AM
Very cool shot. Like the one Martin posted a while ago. Love those filaments layers. Very 3D like. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
gregbradley
07-02-2012, 08:18 AM
Very electric and I love the blue shock wave band. Up close though in original size it looks a bit too pushed. At large size it looks fabulous.
Greg.
Stevec35
07-02-2012, 09:41 AM
Nicely done with the amount of data Mike. Glad someone is getting good weather.
Cheers
Steve
strongmanmike
07-02-2012, 12:17 PM
Cheers Al :cheers:
As Greg said I was indeed after an electric look (my exact thoughts) and the NB often imparts a 3D look :)
Cheers Greggles :thumbsup:
Too pushed huh :question: could be...in what way, colour or depth do you recon?
Thanks Steve
Amount of data..? It was some 9hrs all up :shrug:
Yes the weather on Sunday night was balmy all night, saw only a single small cloud all evening :thumbsup:
Mike
atalas
07-02-2012, 04:43 PM
Spectacular big guy! yeah,you don't get the real impact of the composition until you shrink you browser....well done Merlin.
OMG! :eyepop:
Amazing
Beautiful
Stunning
strongmanmike
07-02-2012, 09:49 PM
Yes, shrinking the browser is always good to get the benefits of the large file but also to see it all on your screen at once. Marcus Davies often posts full res images and I always do this to to get a better overall impression of large nebulae.
I was considering going for a more drab blue/brown look...so I'm glad you liked the saturated neon-lights look I settled on instead ;)
Mike
So... you like it then Niko...? :)
Glad you do :thumbsup:
Mike
Top stuff as always Mike. Really enjoyed this one - fascinating object.
alpal
07-02-2012, 10:38 PM
It's a great photo & a must do target.
I'll try just with a camera & telephoto with my EQ6 & a small guide scope.
It's just in a great position now.
strongmanmike
07-02-2012, 10:43 PM
Thanks Rob, if you scan the full frame image there are lots of intersting details to squizz at :thumbsup:
Mike
DavidU
07-02-2012, 11:14 PM
Yep,more of Mikes magic. A corker !
Really awesome. I love everything about this image.
How? I really dislike how pbase hosts these big images. When you click on the image, it returns to the previous menu, rather than just a direct link to the raw jpg file. In Chrome I can use the control+mouse scroll wheel to resize - but it doesn't look too good on my little laptop.
This time I viewed it an iMac which is 27" 2560 x 1440.
In Chrome you can right click -> open image in new tab and let the browser resize it. I think this is the best way to enjoy these images - really lets you take it all in. :thumbsup:
James
midnight
08-02-2012, 01:42 AM
A lot of real estate there Mike! And love the electric blue waves!
Glad you got some good weather over there!
Cheers,
Darrin...
strongmanmike
08-02-2012, 09:11 AM
Oh ya dave :thumbsup:
Hi James
Glad you like it dispite your issues with PBase
The thing to do is simply scroll to the bottom of the image page and select "original" size from the other sizes menu. Once you have opened it for one image any subsequent image you open will also be in original (ie largest) size. I agree though that this is not obvious to new visitors to PBase and many would click on the image expecting it to take them to a larger version. Once it is on your screen Chrome has an image shrinking/enlargeing link in the spanner menu top right, use the % that makes the image fit best on your screen :thumbsup:
Cheers Darrin :thumbsup:
Mike
marco
08-02-2012, 02:42 PM
Beautiful image Mike, perhaps a bit noisy but I know how faint is the area ^_^
Vela complex remain one of the most charming targets in the southern sky, now it's time for you to plan a mosaic of the whole area, 7x7 perhaps will suffice, you only have other 48 panels to go :lol:
Clear Skies
Marco
strongmanmike
08-02-2012, 03:14 PM
Cheers Marco
Yes, Karel mentioned the slight noise too and as I said to him, the very fine faint tendrils deep in the image are so faint that noise reduction affected them, yes it "looked" a little smoother as a whole but I wasn't comfortable with the idea of losing fine details just for a minor improvement in cosmetic aesthetics :sadeyes:...I grew up in the age of film photography and this amount of noise wouldn't have been noticed :lol:...oh well
As for a mozaic...:question:.....without an observatory..:question:...:scared:: scared::scared::scared:
Cheers for you comments mate.
Mike
Phil Hart
08-02-2012, 07:42 PM
Big thumbs up from me too for this one Mike. Really interesting frame and clearly some careful planning of the composition. Star colours look good for NB too. So much detail.. :thumbsup:
Phil
strongmanmike
08-02-2012, 08:44 PM
Hi Phil, thanks so much for that :)... and you are quite right, there is so much in this area I had many options and in fact may very well re visit other areas next time :thumbsup:
Mike
marc4darkskies
08-02-2012, 10:02 PM
Yep, a lovely image Mike!
Cheers, Marcus
strongmanmike
08-02-2012, 10:10 PM
Thanks Marcus, a bit different and an unusual means to an end for a guy imaging with a 3/4 moon and from the middle of a coastal city :)
Mike
A fantastic image Mike.
The filaments are amazing
strongmanmike
09-02-2012, 09:22 AM
Thanks Rico, yeh the filaments are craaaazzzzy, here they are in negative (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141368007/original)
:thumbsup:
Picasa viewer is a nice intuitive program for viewing any pic, but particularly huge astro pics I find. The rest of the screen is dimmed, the picture is auto-zoomed, and you can intuitively zoom in and pan around with the mouse and mousewheel. You have to save the image before you can open that way, but worth it for exploring a top class image I reckon if download is allowed.
Bit like Zoomify in realtime time, but faster and smoother.
strongmanmike
09-02-2012, 08:49 PM
Yeh maybe, although I have found Picasa clumsy :shrug: probably just what you get used too I recon. The problem is that most viewers are impatient, there are so many images to look at in forums and other places these days, if it isn't easy people will just give up, I am sure I have lost many viewers as a result. I get the impression that many people just open an image quickly look at it for a few seconds and then a few comment based on that experience.
Not sure what the perfect solution is? Personally I like to really look at images so when people post a large option ie bigger than my 22" screen, it is great and I usually look at it at that size first then shrink it in my browser to fit nicely on my screen - this is the best way to appreciate most images but I know many won't wait or be bothered with this. I really don't like zoomify at all, it is slow and clumsy and doesn't allow full appreciation of an image, I prefer to download a large jpeg if the option is there - like Ken Crawford provides and look at that in my picture viewer or where ever...but that takes time.
This is why I offer a number of crops and framings so hopefully there is something that appeals :P my image view counts show that the first image link in the post text is the image most look at and lots don't bother with the others anyway but they are there for the inquisitive amongst you :astron: :thumbsup:
Mike
Actually I should have explained more clearly using Picasa is an exception rather than the rule when I'm really in "image appreciation mode". One step short of throwing it into PS or Pixinsight to REALLY have a gawk at things. You obviously wouldn't be bothered downloading each image while browsing around then opening with separate software.
It does bug me a bit how image sizes are handled in PBase, but realistically you've got a wonderful setup going there Mike - particularly like your album concept - too often it's easy to get fixated on a single "perfectly processed image" (if such a thing is possible;)) when a number of crops of key features is much more workable. Particularly with the AG12 and SAO sensor you're using....
strongmanmike
09-02-2012, 11:55 PM
Oh it's good to have a good base image but call me crazy, call me weird, there are just so many facets to most images that I feel it a shame to only present the one at the one size, besides, creates some interest I hope ...and maybe the occasional smile even :)
Mike
Ross G
10-02-2012, 11:45 PM
Another amazing photo Mike.
I love your rendition...beautiful colours.
Thanks.
Ross.
strongmanmike
13-02-2012, 11:05 AM
Thanks so much Rossco, the RGB look is ok but narrow band just adds something :thumbsup: I am partial to the negative version myself, as someone else commented on my web site, it reminds me of a Schmidt plate too - for me the UK Schmidt but that person the Palomar - a northern hemisphere person I guess?
Mike
richardo
13-02-2012, 08:29 PM
Ah yes, this is very very nice Migel!
Great to have NB in LP areas hey.
Love these super nova remnants... and the colours and fine structure you've obtained are damn fine my man :)
Been I think a pretty horrid weather pattern for most of the country so lets hope things improve soon... :rolleyes:
Cause I want to see more from the wonderful Agie :P
All the best
Rich
strongmanmike
13-02-2012, 09:33 PM
Cheers Ricki Dicki yes NB is a god send at times
Yes I love the negative version (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/141368007/original) actually, it reminds me of a Schmidt plate
LOL you and me both :thumbsup:
Mike
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