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ReaPerMan
18-10-2011, 09:19 AM
This article appeared in Technology review 17/10/11

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On 12th and 13th August 1883, an astronomer at a small observatory in Zacatecas in Mexico made an extraordinary observation. José Bonilla counted some 450 objects, each surrounded by a kind of mist, passing across the face of the Sun.
Bonilla published his account of this event in a French journal called L'Astronomie in 1886. Unable to account for the phenomenon, the editor of the journal suggested, rather incredulously, that it must have been caused by birds, insects or dust passing front of the Bonilla's telescope. (Since then, others have adopted Bonilla's observations as the first evidence of UFOs.)
Today, Hector Manterola at the National Autonomous University of Mexico in Mexico City, and a couple of pals, give a different interpretation. They think that Bonilla must have been seeing fragments of a comet that had recently broken up. This explains the 'misty' appearance of the pieces and why they were so close together.
But there's much more that Manterola and co have deduced. They point out that nobody else on the planet seems to have seen this comet passing in front of the Sun, even though the nearest observatories in those days were just a few hundred kilometres away.
That can be explained using parallax. If the fragments were close to Earth, parallax would have ensured that they would not have been in line with the Sun even for observers nearby. And since Mexico is at the same latitude as the Sahara, northern India and south-east Asia, it's not hard to imagine that nobody else was looking.
Manterola and pals have used this to place limits on how close the fragments must have been: between 600 km and 8000 km of Earth. That's just a hair's breadth.
What's more, Manterola and co estimate that these objects must have ranged in size from 50 to 800 metres across and that the parent comet must originally have tipped the scales at a billion tonnes or more, that's huge, approaching the size of Halley's comet.
That's an eye opening re-examination of the data. Astronomers have seen a number of other comets fragment. The image above shows the Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 comet which broke apart as it re-entered the inner Solar System in 2006. There's no reason why such fragments couldn't pass close by Earth.
One puzzle is why nobody else saw this comet. It must have been particularly dull to have escaped observation before and after its close approach. However, Manterola and co suggest that it may have been a comet called Pons-Brooks seen that same year by American astronomers.
Manterola and co end their paper by spelling out just how close Earth may have come to catastrophe that day. They point out that Bonilla observed these objects for about three and a half hours over two days. This implies an average of 131 objects per hour and a total of 3275 objects in the time between observations.
Each fragment was at least as big as the one thought to have hit Tunguska. Manterola and co end with this: "So if they had collided with Earth we would have had 3275 Tunguska events in two days, probably an extinction event."
A sobering thought.
Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1110.2798 (http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2798): Interpretation Of The Observations Made In 1883 In Zacatecas (Mexico): A Fragmented Comet That Nearly Hits The Earth"


Scary Stuff! :eyepop:

Mliss
18-10-2011, 12:07 PM
:eyepop: thanks for sharing that article Paul. it would have ended the global warming problem, in a big way ;)

Poor Bonilla, it's sad to think we now believe he was right. it must have been hard for him to have seen that, and not have one person back him up!

Rob_K
18-10-2011, 12:17 PM
There's a bit more to this than meets the eye, and the writers of the paper seem to have conveniently ignored some aspects of Bonilla's original descriptions. Bonilla reported the first as a small shining disk, almost perfectly round. The objects didn't just randomly cross the disk of the Sun, they crossed two-by-two, in pairs, in a dead straight line. Also, he calculated the distance as 242,000 km away.

Whatever he and his assistant were seeing, it was not a broken-up comet. Needless to say, the UFO nutter brigade has long held that Bonilla's observations and photographs are the first 'proof' of alien visitation in our neck of the woods. :rolleyes:

Rather than fabricate some sort of scientific credence for the observations as a broken-up comet passing close to Earth, the paper writers would have been better off examining what else (physical or psychological) might have caused such an observation.

Cheers -

h0ughy
18-10-2011, 01:02 PM
now if they only had the net and the gear we do now.... what an awe inspiring viewing it would have been

Ric
18-10-2011, 01:06 PM
Imagine if it hadn't broken up and hit Earth.

I reckon we would have shot off like a game of planetary billiards.

mikerr
19-10-2011, 04:45 PM
Maybe the old Jose enjoyed the odd Tequila Sunrise!!

Michael