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gregbradley
27-08-2011, 04:56 PM
I took this one in between Comet Garrad images over the last few days.

Condition were quite good, better than normal.

A group of Galaxies always is a good target and is very photogenic.

Planewave CDK17 F4.45, FLI Proline 16803, Paramount ME, Vixen 95VMC guide scope and ST402 guide camera.

3 hours 40 minutes LRGB. 10 min subexposures.

http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/image/137560511/large regular

http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/image/137560511/original large

Anyone know of any large galaxy groupings in the Southern Hemisphere? There seems to be quite a few in the northern hemisphere.

Greg.

Stevec35
27-08-2011, 05:18 PM
Not bad at all given the short exposure Greg. You could try the NGC 7172 group in Piscis Austrinus or the NGC 6872 group in Pavo.

Cheers

Steve

gregbradley
27-08-2011, 05:38 PM
Thanks Steve.

F4.45, 17 inches of aperture and 61% QE and good seeing and "relatively" dark helps.

You got to watch the flats and gradient control with this scope though.
Its part of the compromises the designer makes - smaller central obstruction for sharper and more contrast images but more vignetting. 38% is a small central obstruction compared to the BRC250 I used which is over 50% I think. It keeps you on your toes with your gradient processing techniques though!

Thanks for the tips for the galaxy groupings.

Greg.

Alchemy
27-08-2011, 05:40 PM
I had a quick look the other day for just such a grouping, trouble is often you get elliptical galaxies, whereas you really want barred spirals to get detail, there is a grouping near ngc1365, I squeezed in 6 or so larger galaxies plus there's heaps tiny ones in there, if you frame 1365 in a corner you also get a detailed large one.
:thumbsup:

gregbradley
27-08-2011, 07:35 PM
Thanks Clive.

I'll check that out.

Greg.

atalas
27-08-2011, 08:22 PM
Nice shot Greg...lots of faint galaxies around.

p1taylor
27-08-2011, 08:22 PM
That is really sum shot wonderful detail, yes there are quite a few in the northern hemisphere, only trouble is whether in UK, wish I could get that much detail in my shots.

peter

John Hothersall
27-08-2011, 09:07 PM
Love these groups, imaculate stars and great colour detail around the cores, tiny fuzzies make the image so complex.

John.

madbadgalaxyman
28-08-2011, 11:03 AM
Hi Greg,

In answer to your question, one of the standout galaxy groups in the Grus region is the IC 1459 group, which is dominated by the Elliptical or very mildly S0 (i.e. large bulge with a minimal or faint disk) morphology galaxy IC 1459.

This rather bright and easy group of galaxies is rarely imaged!
It needs a very large field.

I believe that Mr Sidonio made a good image of this group of galaxies with his previous imaging rig.

It is quite rich, for a galaxy group, and it has several members with peculiar morphologies.........

IC 5264 shows interesting signs of asymmetry in its dust distribution, but it is rarely imaged at high resolution.
Here is a composite of two different DSS images of IC 5264:

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NGC 7418A is a challenging and low-surface-brightness galaxy of very strange appearance that has been modelled as being the product of an interaction or a merger between galaxies.
Here is the GALEX view of N7418A in the FUV and NUV
bands :

99695

Here is a DSS composite (of R+J plates) from the Aladin database of DSS images:

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NGC 7421 is a noticeably asymmetric spiral galaxy. There is an arm or arc on one side that has the appearance of being a bow shock, but there is no corresponding feature on the other side:

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(The above is a blue photograph from the "NASA Atlas" of Sandage and Bedke. The asymmetry is less pronounced in red sensitive images.)



NGC 7418 is a bright and interesting spiral, which is relatively symmetric in the bright regions of its disk, however most extant images of NGC 7418 are shallow.
Here is an image of NGC 7418 from the survey OSUBSGS :

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IC 5269A and IC 5269B are also interesting members of this galaxy group.
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It is hard to say how many faint galaxies may be lurking in this galaxy group, as very deep imaging of the IC 1459 group is virtually non-existent!
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cheers, the bad galaxy man

Gem
28-08-2011, 11:12 AM
Short?? It was 3 hours 40 minutes!

Nice shot! :)

Stevec35
28-08-2011, 11:26 AM
It certainly was a nice shot. Many people expose galaxies longer than that to build up the signal to noise ratio, thus enabling more aggressive processing to bring out detail in what are low signal to noise ratio objects. My normal time for galaxies is 6-10 hours.

RobF
28-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Really nice work Greg. Some wonderful colour and detail coming out in there without looking least bit overdone.

Tom Davis
28-08-2011, 12:46 PM
Another winner, Greg! You are on a roll!

Tom

Paul Haese
28-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Nice Greg. That top galaxy is a pearler. There are so many galaxies in that field. I gave up counting after a while.

gregbradley
28-08-2011, 07:58 PM
Cheers Louie. Yes the little faint galaxies show up often with this scope.



Thanks Peter. Weather is always the barrier.



Thanks John. I like these groupings as well, it makes the field more interesting.



I know what he means. I usually do much longer as well with galaxies.
In this case it was fairly bright and the 17 inch aperture and F4.45 which is very very fast for a large scope worked in my favour. I probably will add a bit more to it to see what I can get.



Good point Steve. I think I will add a bit more to it to see what it does.
I was mainly imaging Comet Garradd which can't wait of course so it wsa playing second fiddle at the time.



Thanks Rob. Its always a goal to try to process an image and make it look natural and like you haven't processed it at all. Not always successful in that regard but it is definitely a criterion that I keep in mind.



Thanks Tom. The weather seems to have gone into clear mode at the moment and no moon - woohoo!

Greg.

gregbradley
28-08-2011, 08:15 PM
You da man Robert:thumbsup:

Thanks for those tips.

I checked out IC 1459 and what a beauty. It is also right next door to
NGC7418 so they all fit in the same FOV when I rotate my camera so they fit in the diagonal.

By the way you mentioned a while back I think it was NGC4241 (??) I went and imaged it in luminance just so you know as you were interested in it.

I should post that. I don't think I got colour though.

Thanks a million for the tips.

Greg.

RB
28-08-2011, 09:00 PM
Gorgeous shot Greg.
Mind boggling to contemplate the treasures of the universe.

gregbradley
28-08-2011, 09:07 PM
Thanks Andrew.

There are about 3 or 4 of these galaxy groupings around to be imaged now. Thanks to Robert and Steve for pointing out a few.

There seems to be a lot of imageable galaxies around the Sculptor for some reason.

I agree there are lots of treasures to be imaged.

Greg.

strongmanmike
28-08-2011, 10:20 PM
Ah the Grus trio/quartet/quintet...they are a fav huh?

Not a bad effort either :thumbsup:

Mike

SkyViking
29-08-2011, 07:37 AM
Mmmmmm galaxies...! Can't get enough of these :D
A very nice image with great colours. And 3 barred spirals in one group, that's rather cool.

gregbradley
29-08-2011, 07:51 AM
You did an image of it first that I saw and thought it was a great target.
I think I'll add more exposure time to this and see if I can pick up any interaction between the 3 per the Gold Coast talk.

You've been quiet lately. The weather in previous weeks was no good. Did you get out this last weekend?



Thanks Rolf.

Its a nice grouping of galaxies for sure.

Greg.

strongmanmike
29-08-2011, 09:15 AM
Nah..I just go through patches of "meeeah, it's all too much to setup - aaah what's on TV" :lol:

gregbradley
29-08-2011, 09:46 AM
:lol: Gee sometimes I feel like that and the observatory is just outside the back.

Greg.

Ross G
04-09-2011, 10:14 PM
Hi Greg,

Another beautiful galaxy photo.

So much detail and colour...I can't get enough.


Thanks.

Ross.

jjjnettie
05-09-2011, 07:05 AM
schmicko work mr b. :D

gregbradley
05-09-2011, 06:59 PM
Thanks very much for your enthusiasm Ross, much appreciated.




Cheers JJ. Occassionally I get it right:rofl:

Greg.