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alexch
29-07-2011, 11:49 AM
Hi All,

The image have been processed and I can finally share my experience with the 10.4m Gran Telescopio Canarias (GranTeCan) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Telescopio_Canarias) and at STARMUS (http://www.starmus.com) festival.

As some know, I won STARMUS astro-photoraphy contest (http://www.starmus.com/pages/en/winners-starmus-astro-photography-competition128.php) in May and got to spend the week of June 20-25th on Tenerife Island, Canary Islands, Spain at the festival which was out-of-this-world.

I met Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Alexei Leonov, Yuri Baturin and Claude Nicollier as well as listened to the presentations by Nobel lauerates - George Smoot and Jack Szostak and other eminent scientsts: SETI Director Jill Tarter, Kip Thorne, Richard Dawkins and Michel Mayor.

More about my STARMUS experience, the new time lapse, 360 degree VR tours and photos are in my blog (http://www.terrastro.com/blog/amazing-starmus-experience/)

The main prize of the STARMUS astro-photography competition was unbelievable one hour to observe with 10.4m GranTeCan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Telescopio_Canarias).

After long deliberations I chose to observe Arp84, a pair of interacting galaxies NGC5394 and NGC5395 (sometimes referred to as "Heron" because of the appearance). They are 162 and 165 million light years away and are considered to have gone through a recent nearly grazing collision.
The main considerations were:
1) Interacting galaxies (because I love to observe them)
2) Fitting into 7.8' FoV of OSIRIS (http://www.gtc.iac.es/en/pages/instrumentation/osiris.php#BroadBand_Imaging) nicely
3) Not imaged by a professional telescope in colour and detail.

The imaging instrument OSIRIS (http://www.gtc.iac.es/en/pages/instrumentation/osiris.php#BroadBand_Imaging) has two monochrome detectors with a small gap in the middle. The images were taken with g, r, i and F657 H-Alpha filters. In order to reduce the data from OSIRIS I had to use professional astronomy tools because nothing I tried from the amateur astroimaging software would understand FITS from OSIRIS with two image planes. I found THELIS and installed Linux in a Virtual Machine to properly apply flats, biases and stds. There are no darks with cryogenically cooled OSIRIS.

The first attachment is calibrated and median-combined g,r,i layers. As you may have noticed, there is no blue filter in OSIRIS and I was scratching my head what to do in order to get the colour image. At the festival I met Noel Carboni (from ProDigitalSoftware) and he kindly offered to help with the colour image - the second attachment. The result is quite natural looking colour image with g,r,i mapped as b,g,r and F657 data added to the r channel.

Some more data:



The primary 10.4m mirror consists of 36 hexagonal segments fully controlled by an active optics control system
Exposures were 3x30 seconds to overcome the gap in between the detectors.
Position of the center of the image is (RA, Dec) = (13:58:28, +37:26:42) in the constellation Canes Venatici. Celestial North is up.
Field of view is 7.58 x 8.27 arc-minutes.
Image resolution (in the full size 2000x2000 pixel image) is 0.26 arc-seconds per pixel. We used 2x2 binning and the seeing was 0.8 arcsecond.
The three brightest stars are magnitudes 13.7, 15.2, and 15.4

It was an incredible week at the festival and at the observatory on La Palma.

The time lapse is here (view in full screen with sound):
http://vimeo.com/terrastro/outerspace

Images I took at the observatory on La Palma are also attached.

Cheers,
Alex

iceman
29-07-2011, 12:01 PM
What an incredible experience you had. And a beautiful image.

Thanks for sharing!

alexch
29-07-2011, 12:06 PM
Thanks, Mike. Telling the story takes me back there!

I added more wide-field images to the post above.

iceman
29-07-2011, 12:11 PM
I had a read of your blog. Just incredible.

ngcles
29-07-2011, 12:19 PM
Hi Alex & All,

Congratulations and well done Alex -- we're all quite jealous I'm sure.


Best,

Les D

renormalised
29-07-2011, 12:43 PM
Hey Alex, how much did you pay for the new scope:):P

I imagine it has some portability issues:):P

Seriously though, that is a stunning image!!!:)

Now you've made some imaging history there, with the first decent, high res colour shot of those galaxies.

And you're the first person here to "own" a scope with a 10.4 metre mirror!!!:)

I wonder if Mark (Suchting) will grind mirrors for scopes of that size??:P

multiweb
29-07-2011, 12:51 PM
:eyepop: Alex. What a buzz it must have been to meet Neil Armstrong and the others. Beautiful shots you took also. Memories for of a lifetime. :thumbsup: Lucky you. Well done.

gregbradley
29-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Awesome Alex.

You had a dream time there.

Love the time lapse video.

The image is fabulous although there is room for improvement in the processing if I may so. There is still a green bias in the image holding back the colours a bit and also a bit of noise that can be reduced without affecting the detail. Its fabulously sharp and you fixed up the star shapes nicely from the luminance data.

I guess the framing was that way because of the gap in the sensors?

I'd love to have a play with the data if you are interested.

Greg.

apaulo
29-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Hi Alex

Totally blown away with the whole story. Truely an inspiration to all.

Regards Paul.

TrevorW
29-07-2011, 02:54 PM
Well done and congrad's on your win Alex, a memorable experience, I'm envious

strongmanmike
29-07-2011, 05:27 PM
Don't know what to say Alex, I was reading it all so fast I was so excited - awesome photos, the interacting galaxies are fantastic! You have managed to take next years (?) winning images for every competiton on Earth while you were there to boot :eyepop: :lol:...you are the man of Australian amateur astronomy at the moment :bowdown:

Mike

Alchemy
29-07-2011, 06:30 PM
What an incredible opportunity, I like your choice of targets, once in a lifetime experience. Wonderful.

Irish stargazer
29-07-2011, 07:44 PM
I would kill to meet the people you met on your list Alex;). Great image too. Well done mate !!!

p1taylor
29-07-2011, 07:50 PM
Really well done.

peter

Big Dave
29-07-2011, 10:12 PM
Nice stuff again alex. Catch you tomorrow night.

Peter Ward
29-07-2011, 10:17 PM
Maaaaaaate! What a rush!
Well deserved and has to go on the Zub zero cool wall :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

SkyViking
29-07-2011, 11:10 PM
What an amazing experience it must have been. It was very interesting reading your blog, and you certainly managed to take some great images. And a very nice choice of target for the big 10.4m telescope as well.
Congratulations with it all!

Ric
30-07-2011, 12:12 AM
Wonderful images Alex

I can only imagine what a week like that would be like, I'd expect that you are probably still trying to take it all in.

Cheers

strongmanmike
30-07-2011, 12:19 AM
Just had another look at the time lapse...you must have been pinching yourself :)

The star trails in the big scope mirror is just genius.

Mike

alexch
30-07-2011, 12:47 AM
Les, Carl, Marc, Greg, Paul, Trevor, Mike, Clive, John, Peter (p1taylor), Dave, Peter Ward, Rolf, Ric - thanks heaps for the comments. Not that I need much more sweetening after all that happened recently, it is very nice to read your comments. I am still re-living those magic moments daily and look at the GTC all-sky cam (http://www.gtc.iac.es/netcam/allskycurrentimage.jpg) at least once a day.

I was thinking about fellow IIS members on Tenerife and LaPalma and dreaming about having such an event here in Australia one day.

Cheers,
Alex

alexch
30-07-2011, 12:50 AM
Mike, you may not believe it - I was cursing the rechargable batteries in the Teletrack mount when I came to change the camera position 4am and found out that it stopped panning about an hour before I came. Only later, when I looked at the additive star trails result I realised how thick the sliver lining was.

strongmanmike
30-07-2011, 08:02 AM
It will take all of Fred and Phils creative new fangled magic and a UFO or something in the backgroud maybe?..to top that one though - you have'em in the bag, they may as well give up from a competitive stand point, it's a brilliant shot:thumbsup:

I would love to team up with you some time and get a handle on this time lapse movie with the DSLR thingy, would be a sort of Iti-Slav union in heaven of big guys :thumbsup:

Mike

Paul Haese
30-07-2011, 10:46 AM
Lovely work Alex. The main image of the 10.4 is pretty cool and I don't think I have ever seen this object before in an image or otherwise.

I like the wide field shots too and the animation is pretty cool. Well done once again on the win and what an excellent prize. Must put this in my diary to enter next time.

Octane
30-07-2011, 11:54 AM
Congratulations again, Alex.

I haven't had the chance to read your blog post yet, but, I'm in complete awe of the image of the interacting galaxies. I couldn't have picked a more beautiful object to capture.

It was great to catch up with you at Parkes, too.

I will forward you pictures from the Dish soon. :)

H

alexch
30-07-2011, 02:26 PM
That's a great idea! You will need a wide angle lens, the wider the better. What DSLR do you have?

alexch
30-07-2011, 02:29 PM
Thanks Paul. I looked at more than 2000 galaxies from Sloan Digital Sky Survey before choosing this one.

I am not sure STARMUS will be an annual event, but the director of the Festival mentioned VLT and Keck as possible prizes for the next contest when it happens.

alexch
30-07-2011, 02:29 PM
Thanks, H! Likewise it was great to catch up with you in Parkes.

jase
30-07-2011, 08:30 PM
Speechless! What a buzz Alex. Would be hard to come down to earth I would imagine. Excellent images accompany the post. <two thumbs up>

Lester
30-07-2011, 08:45 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience Alex. To be in the same place as the first men on the Moon, plus use the 10m scope just blows my mind. All the best. Honestly I don't know how one can top this.

gregbradley
30-07-2011, 09:07 PM
What was the focal length and F ratio of that scope?

Greg.

alexch
31-07-2011, 11:48 AM
Thanks, Jase. Indeed every morning I am confronted with an issue of justifying getting out of bed knowing that my 10.4m Dob is so far away ;)

alexch
31-07-2011, 11:49 AM
I still have trouble believing it all happened. But images and videos are pretty good evidence it did :)

alexch
31-07-2011, 11:52 AM
The primary mirror is f/1.65 and the f/l at the Nasmyth focal point is 170 metres.

gregbradley
31-07-2011, 08:31 PM
170 metres, wow and we think 3 metres is long focal length.

Greg.

rally
31-07-2011, 08:56 PM
Sure its not 17m ?

marc4darkskies
31-07-2011, 10:39 PM
Oh Alex! :eyepop: I'm so friggin' envious!

Well done mate and beautiful choice for the 10m!

Cheers, Marcus

alexch
31-07-2011, 11:27 PM
Positive.

alexch
31-07-2011, 11:28 PM
Thanks, Marcus! I spent a few nights going through about 2000 galaxies in SDSS before choosing Arp84.

DavidU
01-08-2011, 06:32 PM
WOW !! The mirror is as big as my backyard:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbs up:

gary
01-08-2011, 08:32 PM
Hi Alex,

Where does one begin? The blog, the choice of object to image on the GranTecCan, the
image itself, the new timelapse - all absolutely fantastic.

Years from now if you ask most IceInSpace members if they recollect what they
were doing in that particular week of June 2011, I doubt few would remember.
But if you then mentioned that was the week you went to the Canary Islands, then
all of us will remember that, and in that way, I guess, we have all lived through
you, both through your words and pictures. So thank you for helping share the experience.

And good luck for the future.

Best Regards

Gary Kopff
Mount Kuring-Gai NSW

Phil Hart
02-08-2011, 08:52 PM
hey Alex

I can't believe where astronomy has taken you over the last twelve months! Was great to hear the stories in Parkes and now to see the blog post online. I'll be sharing that with a few colleagues at work who've been following your adventures too. What are you going to do next?! :lol:



I would love to see that! ;)

For the benefit of others, here's some more publicity for Alex including an interview:
http://www.cnet.com.au/exposure-alex-cherney-339319551.htm

Phil