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shelltree
30-05-2011, 08:04 PM
I am setting myself a challenge. To get down to between 60-65kg by the end of the year and finally get rid of this flab once and for all! :P

In 2006, I went from 101kg down to about 73kg but have put on a fair heap of weight since then and was back up to 91.8kg in November last year :sadeyes: By February I was back down to 84.5kg but I put on weight again on my holidays and was back up to 89.9kg at the beginning of this month :(

Back down to 84.5kg again and counting! :D Hoping that the lovely people on here could keep tabs on me so that I do not gain again and so I lose this weight for good!

Thanks all :)

Shell

astroron
30-05-2011, 08:16 PM
Hi Shelley keep us informed of your progress and we will keep you on the straight and narrow:thumbsup:
Cheers

Octane
30-05-2011, 08:24 PM
Shell,

I, too, have begun a strict diet regime and gym every day. Want to get back to my pre-university physique. Here's to us! :)

H

GeoffW1
30-05-2011, 09:44 PM
Hi,

My pre-Uni physique is but a distant and lamented memory, but I'll try to match you Kg for Kg.

Cheers

jjjnettie
30-05-2011, 10:22 PM
Good on ya Shel.
jjj rings the bell.

erick
30-05-2011, 11:52 PM
My gym goal was to be under 93kg by end of current program - in the next week or two. This morning 91.5kg - Woo Hoo! Now, to blast through the big nine zero! Stick with it Shelley.

Exfso
31-05-2011, 01:47 AM
Well I have found the perfect way to lose weight and keep it off. Lose your taste buds and not have any saliva being produced. I guarantee you will drop to whatever weight you want and will never put it back on again. Aint radiation therapy to the neck great. You simply do not want to eat or drink, because you cant taste anything and it is a nightmare to swallow anything without washing it down with copious quantities of water.
I have gone from 107kg to 78kg and no matter what I do I cannot put any on.
I must admit, I would prefer to be in your boots, the thought of never tasting anything again is horrendous!

iceman
31-05-2011, 04:51 AM
Well done Shelley. Sharing the goal publicly will help keep you focused because you'll have to report into us :)

shelltree
31-05-2011, 07:28 AM
Cheers Ron, I will definitely be up-dating weekly with my weigh in :D



Good on ya H, feels good, doesn't it!? We can do it! :)



I want my pre-packing-on-the-kilos physique again. I was so toned but now, alas, everything wobbles :sadeyes: LOL. Looking forward to seeing your weekly progress also Geoff! :)



Thanks Nettie! (postman shell rings the bell ;))



Woohoo, great job Erick, congratulations, you are doing a fantastic job! :D I will stick it out, thanks for the encouragement!



Mate, that sounds horrible, I really feel for you. While sometimes I wish I couldn't taste delicious things like chocolate and ice vovo's :P I would never actually wish for it permanently. Do they know whether the taste loss is permanent or perhaps just while on treatment. All the best Peter and take care.



Thanks Mike, that was definitely the plan! Keep myself accountable so I don't fall off the wagon :)

Thanks for everyone's support, I really appreciate it and it definitely does help! :D

As of this morning I am down to 84.1kg :rolleyes: I was hoping for more but the past week and a half has been up and down for me so I really couldn't expect much LOL. Was really sick yesterday so that was a right off but got up and did my 45 minutes walk this morning and feeling much better :)

Until next weigh in... ;)

jjjnettie
31-05-2011, 08:06 AM
I got the go ahead from the docs yesterday that I can start getting physical again.
After living on the couch for over a year, I'll be taking it very slow to start with. Walking before running.

Barrykgerdes
31-05-2011, 08:45 AM
When I stopped playing golf my weight went up to 12 stone from my normal weight of 10.7 (I can't convert to KG's without my calculator ). I could not get it back down no matter what I did (all around the middle). However last year I found a new weight loss method that I have not heard of before.

I had my teeth out (what was left of them) and got a new full upper set of dentures. They look nice but they make food taste so bland that I must have cut down drastically on my food intake without noticing.

I am now back to 10.10

Barry

Exfso
31-05-2011, 09:54 AM
Shelley, the taste is gone forever and it looks like the saliva glands are pretty well destroyed as well.
At least my cardiologist is a happy chappy

asimov
31-05-2011, 10:06 AM
At nearly 6 foot & 69 kilos I certainly don't need to lose weight..! BUT at age 49 & on a carers pension, I certainly need to get back in shape...My 'midlife crisis' recently, therefor saw the purchases of (not a bloody Harley or a red sports car :lol: ) but a pushbike & a speed ball:thumbsup:

jjjnettie
31-05-2011, 10:50 AM
You're a regular slim Jim, John.
Muscle tone, cardio and another 4 or 5 kilos to lose for me.

Peter, that's a right bugger of a side effect from your treatment.
In a few years time, they will be able to replace your damaged ones with new ones cloned from good cells, taken from you before treatment.
We have the technology.
So many breakthroughs are about to happen that are going to revolutionize the Medical profession. :D
I hope we all may benefit from these advances.
No, I hope that we don't have to benefit from them in the first place.

shelltree
31-05-2011, 07:50 PM
Yay, congrats jjj! :D Now you can ring the bell as much as you want! :P



I'm really sorry to hear that buddy! But as jjj, the future possibilities are endless, who knows what the future holds :)

Exfso
31-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Thanks for the thoughts, didnt meant to hijack this thread. I know how hard it can be trying to lose weight, it was always a problem with me, I had "syndrome X" being a type 2 diabetic and no matter what I did I could not lose weight, it took Cancer to fix that problem up!!

Astroman
31-05-2011, 08:42 PM
I am getting back on the diet also. Good luck with it Shelley, it will be well worth it. I have started walking during lunch at work, I only get 30 mins so its a quick walk.. I am currently sitting on 81kg, and having lite 'n' easy dinners, lunch is a single sandwich with fruit, Breakfast is a high fibre meal with fruit also.. I only started this not quite 2 weeks ago and have lost 3kg. But being the beginning you tend to lose it quit then find a stable rate. Last time I went on a diet I got down to 75kg, but didn't stick to it, and put it all back on... not anymore, had enough of looking like an overweight beach ball :)

Octane
31-05-2011, 09:14 PM
Onya, Andy. :)

H

GeoffW1
31-05-2011, 09:37 PM
Good to hear jjj, well and truly on the road back :thumbsup:

Cheers

shelltree
01-06-2011, 07:18 AM
That's awesome mate! This can be a general thread where we can all check in weekly on our progress to keep us on the wagon :) And you are doing it with healthy food and exercise and that is the only proper way to do it!

Sooo, I'm naughty and I jumped on the scales again this morning... :P 83.45kg!? Could it be!? :eyepop: Gotta say, I'm tempted to go with it! :lol:

Astroman
01-06-2011, 05:20 PM
Sounds good to me, sat on 81.1kg this morning :) was 80.5 last week LOL but I was a naughty boy for a couple of days, damn sausage sizzles :)

shelltree
01-06-2011, 08:53 PM
:lol: Never mind! I was seemingly in a perpetual gain for about half a week after one Red Rooster lunch so I wouldn't worry too much about it. It will come off easily! :D

erick
02-06-2011, 10:44 AM
Bouncing along at 91-93kg. Down from over 100kg but have hit the wall! :confused2:Time to change gear it seems - but I don't want to be too hungry :sadeyes:

jjjnettie
02-06-2011, 11:16 AM
I dropped 9kg in 6weeks on the Atkins diet. BUT that was under doctors orders because I had to lose it fast.
No cakes, biscuits, bread, pasta, rice, sugar, fruit, carrots, pumpkin or potato.
I had to take vitamin supplements to make up for the lack in the diet.

shelltree
03-06-2011, 07:28 AM
Sometimes it doesn't take much to get through a plateau. Even something as simple as adding in a few small snacks in between your main meals can help. Something healthy like fruit or some carrot/celery sticks even, that's what I did the first time and somehow it worked lol. I think I also changed what cereal I was having in the morning, as I got too much into a routine. Kind of makes your body go "what!? What's happening?" and it will respond :)



Wow J, that's incredible! When I first starting losing weight wayyy back in 2006, it dropped over at first. I lost 10kg in the first month, it was awesome! Haha. This time round, I've lost just over 6kg since the beginning of May, so I'm pretty happy with that :D Can't wait to be back in the 70's though! Ohhh, it's been so long... :P Only 3.6kg to lose and I'll be 79.9kg :lol:

Octane
03-06-2011, 08:10 AM
Swap cereal (it's all sugar) for oats. It will make a huge difference.

Half cup of oats with about a cup of milk, cook and eat. nom nom.

H

erick
03-06-2011, 10:04 AM
We've had a visitor for several weeks so have been cooking more substantial meals than usual. Back to the two of us next week, so we can make changes.

* raw carrot/celery :eyepop: OK, more apples are called for. I like a nice apple.

* cereal - OK, I have one or two hi-bran wheetbix with Special K, toasted muslei and a handful of Brazil nuts plus low fat milk. Anyone see any problem here? :D OK, OK, I get the message!

Octane
03-06-2011, 10:32 AM
Pretty much all cereals are bad. It's like candy in milk. :)

H

[1ponders]
03-06-2011, 12:59 PM
And you looked fantastic might I add! The healthiest and happiest you'd seemed in ages. :thumbsup: :D

Good for you Shelley, put me down for 8 to 10 as well.

erick
03-06-2011, 02:46 PM
There's half a chocolate Muffin sitting in the tea room.


..........must resist............................ :help:

[1ponders]
03-06-2011, 04:51 PM
there is and I'm going to eat it. Damn Eric there's not one but.......5! Triple choc! I need someone to ring.

Astroman
08-06-2011, 05:17 PM
Well weekly report, I am happy to say I have dropped below the 80kg mark, last weigh in I was 79.8kg and that was this morning. I think I would have lost more but kids sausage sizzles and one night of naughty Hungry Jacks, kept my weight up near 81.5kg :( I just have to resist those cravings now... Still eating lite 'n' Easy meals for dinner, Lunch an Apple or orange, Morning tea I have 1 tuna and rabbit food sandwich, breakfast I just have a high fibre cereal. Seems to be working with the Walking I am doing also.

erick
08-06-2011, 05:37 PM
resisted the muffin from the other day :party:

ate two small choc bars today to fortify me as I cleaned out my office after 12 years :doh:

shelltree
09-06-2011, 07:25 AM
Seems everyone is doing really great, woohoo! :)

I've only lost 200g this week LOL, down to 83.25kg now. Had a really bad weekend food wise so serves me right :P still managed to do 4 days/45 mins each day of walking last week so that must have kept the kilo's from crawling back up. So I'm pretty happy with still losing a little bit. Aiming for a full kg or more this week, done 4 days of walking so far and intend to make it at least 6. Another 5kg and I reckon I'll fit back into my size 12 work pants. Ohhhh yeah! :thumbsup:

Onwards and upwards :D

ngcles
09-06-2011, 03:09 PM
Hi Shelley & All,

Well done Shelley.

There was another weight loss thread recently that I contributed to occasionally but never bothered to do a further update. I've been on a diet since Christmas and my target is to get from 113.5 down to 90kg by the end of August.



And I found I've had the same experience as Erick. I made my interim goal of being less than 100kg by the end of April (I was 98.0) but things have slowed down drastically since them. I'm hardly doing anything different, its just coming off much, much slower now. I've only managed to loose 1.5more kilo (now 96.5) in the last 9 weeks and haven't lost anything in 4 weeks at all. So all-up, I've lost 17kg, 6.5kg to go but am beginning to feel as though I might have hit the wall and this is it. I'll keep going for another month and see what happens but I just don't seem to be loosing any more weight and don't know why.

With the transition from Summer to Winter I can now see why cold and hungry is so unpopular in 3rd world counties -- it is much harder to endure than warm & hungry!


Best,

Les D

shelltree
11-06-2011, 05:28 PM
As of this morning, 82.9kg! :D And today I ate caramel slice and chocolate :sadeyes: And have a packet of doritos for later :P Oh well, back to it tomorrow! ;) Still aiming for 80kg by the end of this month!

asimov
11-06-2011, 05:36 PM
Good stuff Shelley:thumbsup:

Astroman
11-06-2011, 08:40 PM
Nice work, getting there slowly, I measured in at 79.5kg this morning... Even went into KFC, only to use the loo's there :D resisted temptation and left without buying anything... :D

Keep going, your doing well, just try and resist those temptations as much as possible. If you do crack, only have a small amount and work a little harder :)

shelltree
12-06-2011, 02:38 PM
Cheers mate and congrats on resisting temptation, that's awesome! :D I however did not...big time :sadeyes: Ended up getting Chinese food last night and ate chocolate... not to mention bad snacks on Friday night when I went out to dinner with friends. And the left over bad food today... not happy with myself :( Need to learn the meaning of moderation and actually stick to that definition :P

Feeling really horrid now and intend to go for a very lengthy walk shortly once my ipod has synced with some upbeat music. At least things are slowly changing. Usually I would just shrug and sit on my butt all day, I'd never even consider going for a walk. Now I feel so so guilty and upset :(

Don't know why I do it when it makes me feel so bad! Silly brain!

Better luck for this rest of the day and tomorrow onwards. I have learnt a very valuable lesson this weekend...

Octane
12-06-2011, 03:31 PM
I haven't done anything for four days, now. Busy with work/offsite training, and, it was my sister's wedding yesterday. :(

H

shelltree
12-06-2011, 04:39 PM
At least you actually care though, that you haven't been doing as much. Hope you get some time soon to catch up on some activity :)

I am feeling MUCH better now after a much needed walk. 70 minutes walking and listening to KoRn, a sure fire way to feel better :lol:

Plus the weather is clearing :D

jjjnettie
12-06-2011, 05:20 PM
You would have lost a couple of kilo when you had your hair cut.
Poor H, a mere shadow of his former self. :sadeyes:

shelltree
15-06-2011, 07:27 AM
As of this morning, 82.75kg :D How this happened, I have no idea... :screwy: Maybe from keeping up that exercise even though I was eating a heck of a lot of food... :shrug:

Astroman
23-06-2011, 05:40 AM
Well done, I am sitting on 77.8kg now.. I'm fading away.......

shelltree
23-06-2011, 07:51 PM
Great job mate, congrats! :) I went to the coast for 4 days and have come back at 84.4kg :( Seems to be coming off fairly quickly though as I weighed in this morning at 83.45kg. Only a preliminary weigh in though, will weigh in properly at the end of next week!

shelltree
29-06-2011, 08:51 AM
Down to 81.7kg as of this morning! :D

Poita
29-06-2011, 09:38 AM
I lost 10kg to get down to my 'correct' weight/BMI by replacing my lunch with campbells country ladel soups.
Even the meat ones are only about 900KJ and 2grams of fat.
That is all I did, cut out in-between breakfast and lunch snacks, and replaced lunch with campbells soup (no toast!), and I lost the weight in 6 weeks. I'd been trying to slough off that weight for two years previously. Being winter hot soup didn't feel like a chore. Now to get some exercise, that is the bit I struggle with...

erick
29-06-2011, 11:12 AM
am spending 12 days away from the scales! lots of walking and swimming and controlling our food. hope my wife and I return a bit lighter and feeling fitter.

shelltree
29-06-2011, 07:22 PM
Hey Pete, nice going mate! Just be careful with the canned and powdered soups, they are extremely high in sodium (1500mg per serving on average), eek!

Astroman
06-07-2011, 06:35 AM
Not much weight loss from me lately, been sick and raining and.... :) Still I am down to 77.5kg so it's still a loss...

shelltree
06-07-2011, 06:38 AM
It's the same here mate, trying to get over this sickness and found it hard just walking without chest pain this morning so cut my walk short. Really just hoping not to have gained too much from eating more than usual. Will probably try not to weigh in til next week now and work hard over the weekend :)

shelltree
08-07-2011, 07:23 AM
Not much of a gain from being sick luckily phewf! Weighed in yesterday at 81.55kg but back down to 81kg today :D Think my body must have been holding onto salt and water, pretty happy with that considering I didn't do any form of exercise or moving for 4 days and had a very bad day food wise on Tuesday :lol:

1.1kg and I'll be just into the 70's! :P:D

Astroman
08-07-2011, 05:25 PM
It's a good feeling getting into the 70's. I was happy as a pig in.... well you will know what I mean :)

Going for a hike in the Adelaide Hills on Sunday so that's a bit more exercise that I haven't done in a while...

shelltree
11-07-2011, 07:28 AM
Hi mate,

How was your walk over the weekend?

Well, I am happy to report another loss this week. 79.95kg as of Saturday! :) Pretty stoked to finally be in the 70's but not too excited yet seeing as I'm shifting between that and 80.5kg. Must stop constantly weighing myself! :P Hoping for another loss by the end of the week, then I'll really be excited! :)

Until then ;)

Astroman
11-07-2011, 10:00 PM
Yes got to stop weighing in everyday, it makes you happy one day then you ask ourself the next day "why do I bother, I just keep putting it back on" But you always forget the weight you have already lost :)

Keep it up, doing great... Now wishing to get under the 77kg mark....

Astroman
14-07-2011, 06:31 AM
Measured this morning I am not 77.0kg :) extremely happy with this considering I polished off two T-Bone steaks last night :D They just tasted soooooooooooo goooooooood :)

Okay back into it again...

shelltree
26-07-2011, 07:20 PM
That is soooo awesome mate, so happy for you! :)

I've hit a massive plateau in recent weeks, although I suppose it was bound to happen seeing as I've almost like 12kg now. Breaking it slowly but surely and weighed in on Saturday at 79.35kg :D Now to keep going downward ;)

astroron
26-07-2011, 07:51 PM
Hi Shelley,on my trip I lost 12lbs or about 5kg and one and a half inches around the waist:eyepop:
Keep up loosing it will make you feel better:D
Cheers:thumbsup:

shelltree
26-07-2011, 08:24 PM
Great work Ron, that's fantastic! Not often one loses weight on holidays, it's usually the other way around :P I'm sure you did heaps of walking on your travels though, it really is refreshing and makes me feel much better when I get my daily exercise :thumbsup: The benefits far out weigh the delicious taste of chocolate and other bad foods...most of the time :D

Astroman
26-07-2011, 10:16 PM
I'm still fading away, last weigh in (Last Saturday) I was 76.4kg Not going to be much left of me soon.... I am losing it slowly though, which I am happy about, but still losing so that's terrific...

erick
27-07-2011, 12:18 AM
Bouncing around at 90kg. Just cannot consistently get under 90kg. But my clothes are very loose now. :thumbsup: I'll keep at it. :)

shelltree
27-07-2011, 07:07 AM
Great work astroman, good to seeing you losing the kg's but not too quickly. I plan on slowing down a bit now and trying not to stress about it as much seeing as I've lost the initial baggage and am in the 70's again... preliminary weigh in this morning of 78.9kg :) Very happy about this. Now for a week of calorie cycling to shock my body into action again and downwards I go hopefully!

Eric, it is possible you have hit a bit of a plateau. Try spicing up your exercise a bit, whether it is walking a different route or adding weight/intervals as well as changing things up food wise or adding in snacks and have more of small meals. Whatever works for you really, should see the scales moving again :)

This is what I'm facing at the moment too and every time I do I always stress so much about it even though I know it is inevitable for some people. You are probably still losing cm's anyway and toning up and that is still a very positive thing!

erick
27-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Actually, getting back to any exercise at all, after the move to Sydney and getting set up in new home and job, would be good. A few weeks, then I tackle the gym. Oh, just remembered - I brought the rowing machine up! Woo hoo - must set that up in a spare room this weekend.

shelltree
28-07-2011, 06:58 AM
Woohoo! Rowing machine will be great and the gym will be even better :) I've been el slacko this week and didn't exercise at all on Tuesday and was suppose to get up this morning to walk but didn't...hoping I'll make up for it tonight. Had a huge snack attack last night too, just having a blah week. Hope it passes and next week is more promising!

Astroman
11-08-2011, 09:15 PM
Finally broke through the 76kg barrier. Weighed in at 75.9kg, and am extremely happy. I have been doing hiking in the Adelaide hills, roughly doing 14-16km each Tim. Also been doing 30 minute walks every day when I can. Works out to just over 2km per day.

erick
12-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Been consistently under 90Kg for many days now - even into the 87s at some times. All good.

And I have the gym locked in - second session 6am this morning - YAWN............. Looking good.

Analog6
12-08-2011, 05:43 PM
My weight has always been a battle for me, and even moreso lately as Warwick would eat chips and things in front of me and of course, I would cave in and have some.

So, last Tuesday (2/8/2011) he went to the doctor for the flu. His weight was 115kgs and his BP 165/110. So the dr put him on BP meds - which have worked well, he's back in the normal range, and we have BOTH gone on the health and beauty kick.

On 1 August when I weighed myself I had crept back up to a depressing 120kgs. We are both 170cms (5'7") so both of us were way over normal. My BP is generally about 130/85-90, a bit high but considering my weight not too awful.

So, we weighed again on Sunday, Warwick was down to 110.6, I was 119.4. But I on Wednesday was down to 111.4! I'll probably have a bounce back though, our official weigh in is Sunday. I've virtually given up carbs, so hard t do for me, even though I only have gluten free anyway, and we have been walking almost every day.

I'm so pleased. Will keep you posted. Be nice to be under 100kgs by Xmas.

erick
12-08-2011, 07:07 PM
Go for it Odille - we are all in this together. It can be done! :thumbsup:

Jen
12-08-2011, 10:59 PM
good on ya guys keep it up im still hanging in there, a bit up and down like a yo-yo in the winter though im so hungry all the time when its cold :rolleyes: But i have kept the fitness up going to gym 3 days a week :)
I will post some embarrassing photos of the changes in me of my weight loss journey real soon (be warned there are some very embarrasing/ashamed shots) :shrug:

Astroman
13-08-2011, 05:46 AM
Nothing to be embarrassed/ashamed about Jen, we are all family here. I am so glad I spend 99% of the time at the viewfinder end of a camera, that way no one gets to see the results... But I must admit it would be good seeing the result from when I was 86kg to now though....

shelltree
14-08-2011, 10:10 AM
Great to see you both powering through and getting some amazing results! It's always a great feeling eating the right foods and exercising, sometimes we take it for granted but it's what our body really needs :) Keep us updated, I love hearing about other people's success!



As Andrew said, nothing to be embarrased about chicky! I always find it so shocking to see before and after shots, even if it's progress shots with 5kg in between. The difference is phenomenal! I have seen a massive difference, especially in my face and my upper body. Even my legs are looking slimmer but I've been blessed with gigantic thighs so it will take a lot of hard work to get rid of them :P I might join you Jen, with some photos, just need to find the least embarrasing ones first ;)

Andrew, you are doing such a fantastic job, you must be so happy! I have had a bit of a bad couple of weeks with flu, bad eating and little to no exercise so I was back up to 80.3kg on Tuesday morning but as of this morning I'm back in the 70's, down to 79.8kg :) A bit of a set back but I am determined to continue moving forward now and feel really renewed in my efforts which is great! I am getting my hair done in early September so my goal by then is at least 77kg, hopefully less :)

Need to update this thread more to keep me accountable ;) I have also begun a two months healthy food and exercise challenge which means NO bad foods, treats or anything and no alcohol for two whole months. And at least 5 days of exercise every week. One week down, 7 to go :)

Jen
14-08-2011, 10:22 AM
:eyepop: no alcohol for 2 months :eyepop: now thats desperate measures good luck Shell :P

Yep those embarrassing photos you wish would dissapear under a rock :rolleyes: are good in a way to keep, to really see how you are progressing :thumbsup:

(now which rock did i put that pic under again) :question:

shelltree
14-08-2011, 10:38 AM
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I'm not a big drinker any more anyway, Jen. In fact, I haven't really been drunk since June last year. And that was a very very BAD day :P Alcohol just doesn't really agree with me. Of course, as soon as the weather starts warming up again, it is going to be a lot harder to resist the bubbly cold beer in the fridge http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/../vbiis/images/smilies/happy04.gif

But I have just really gone of the rails of late and decided this is a good way to undo that and get some results again :) I still have just under 20kg to lose to reach my ultimate goal so I need to get my butt in gear ;)

Ohhh boy, I just found a photo from when I first started losing weight back in 2006 http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/../vbiis/images/smilies/eyepopping.gif It's only a headshot but wow. I look like a chubby cherub! :P

Astroman
14-08-2011, 05:26 PM
Kicked off another hike today in the Adelaide hills, a leisurely stroll of 15.44km. Was great getting out again... Here is a map of todays trail..

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msid=202472707681621212568.0004a a6f7957016798dba&msa=0

GrahamL
14-08-2011, 05:42 PM
Due to a pretty major health scare ,I'm having to make some pretty big lifestyle changes

Best wishes to you guys for wanting to make some positive changes towards your health.

shelltree
16-08-2011, 07:15 AM
Cheers mate and good luck with your lifestyle changes and great job Andrew, that's a nice hike indeed! :)

As of yesterday morning, 79.25kg :D My goal of 78kg by the end of the month is fast approaching...hoping to smash it completely :)

Octane
16-08-2011, 11:38 AM
Good work and congratulations to all of you.

I ended up stopping my quest due to work and personal crap. As of last night, I'm back at the gym. Feel good already. :)

The goal is to tone up and lose a bit of flab in the next 2.5-3 months.

At this point in time, I don't have any specific weight range in mind.

H

steve000
16-08-2011, 12:16 PM
Good on ya Shell! My wife and I have also taken the weight loss challenge, we have a lot more to lose but damn its good to see it leave you week by week. we have lost around 15kg in 12 weeks so far.

Jen
16-08-2011, 08:15 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup: good on ya H and Steve :thumbsup::thumbsup:

shelltree
17-08-2011, 08:44 PM
Cheers Steve! It sure is a great feeling, isn't it!? To go the hard yards and to see the amazing results! Really makes it all worth it :) Congrats to you both, I'm so happy for your loses! :D

Well, progress report...Got on the scales this morning and nearly died from shock!

77.7kg :D:D Smashed my August goal 14 days early woot! Also did 14.5km of walking today all up, feeling really great right now :)

Jen
17-08-2011, 09:03 PM
:eyepop: woohooo way to go Shell :thumbsup: im looking for the LIKE button :lol::lol: keep it up you can do it :)

shelltree
23-08-2011, 07:21 AM
:D Thanks Jen, I was absolutely blown away! Well, I seem to be hovering between 77.55 and 77.25kg at the moment. Not much loss for this week but considering the huge loss I had just before that, it kind of makes sense. I'm happy enough that every time I stand on the scales I see 77 point something and nothing involving 80kg!! :D

It's been so rainy and horrible here and I didn't get to exercise yesterday :sadeyes: will definitely make up for it with a big gym session tonight. I prefer walking though and doing my exercise in the morning but this dang rain has prevented that from happening! Still determined to see a bigger loss this week, will just have to work extra hard at the gym ;)

Got a wedding in a few weeks so hoping a couple more kg's should be GONE by then!

Poita
24-08-2011, 06:53 AM
Congrats Shell!

I am finally back down to my fighting weight of 76kg, had trouble losing the last five, but replacing my normal lunch with campbells minestrone soup finally got me there.
Last weekend the council put free public gym equipment in the park across the road from my house, so I now have no excuses!

shelltree
24-08-2011, 07:16 AM
Cheers Pete and glad to see you got through the last five kilos, they are always the hardest! :) And soup is my best friend, I have huge containers full of pumpkin and cauliflower soup which I have for lunch and dinner as well as snacks in between and cereal, wholegrains and yoghurt. Finally found a routine that really works and sees eating every few hours which is perfect!

I did 80 minutes of cardio at the gym last night and got up this morning and went for a 7km walk so that's another 70 minutes today, hoorah! Hoping this rain stays away, I much prefer walking to standing on a treadmill staring at myself in the mirror for an hour :rolleyes: LOL.

Hope everyone else is doing well :)

Astroman
30-08-2011, 06:21 AM
Doing okay here, down to 75.2kg now, which I was surprised at since I haven't been a real good boy this week, didn't even go for a long hike :( 2.2kg to go.....

shelltree
30-08-2011, 07:21 AM
Great job mate, that's fantastic, you are doing well! :) Woot woot!

77.15kg here this morning, only a loss of 300g this week :rolleyes: I suppose it is to be expected seeing as there have been a couple of dinners that were a bit bulkier carb wise during the week and Saturday was a very bad day hehe. Been quite stressed and having some random anxiety attacks through the week too so haven't been 100% into it as I would have liked.

This week feels very positive and has had a good start though so I am determined to see a good loss this week! I did however challenge myself to stay away from the scales from Tuesday to Tuesday and succeeded! I got Mum to hide the scales which helped a lot ;) lol.

shelltree
16-09-2011, 06:55 AM
Sickness is the bane of my existence :sadeyes: I HAD got down to 76.3kg a couple of weekends ago but then I had a couple of days off for my friend's hen's night and one of my best friends came up to visit from Canberra for that and the wedding and THEN I got really sick by the Monday and am still struggling to get over it completely...on my way back down though :) Hovering around 77.25ish, hoping this continues to go in the next week or so.

I have joined a weight loss competition so I think that will be the motivation I need to keep losing and to get my butt to the last 10kg, pronto! :D

erick
16-09-2011, 07:54 PM
87 is my brick wall. I touch it and quickly bounce off back up into the 88s and 89s. But apart from one wicked weekend of eating in Perth two weeks ago, I am staying under 90kg which is fantastic!

shelltree
08-08-2014, 02:12 PM
Argghhhhh, here we are again...And worse off than ever :(

Back to the drawing board. Onward and downward!

multiweb
08-08-2014, 02:24 PM
Don't wanna p|ss on anybody's parade but I lost 20kgs since January :P

The secret is to vary your diet and exercise regime. Rest is a big part of losing weight too. If you go too hard your body will keep fat reserves thinking what's going on, then you rest for a week, it thinks you're not training anymore and you'll lose 1kg in a week, then you star training again until the next plateau.

Your body will adapt to whatever you do. You can run your a$$ off for months and not shed a gram. Key is variation and consistency.

I did it before with a trainer so I knew exactly what to do and what I was up to this time. Any questions, fire away.

tlgerdes
08-08-2014, 02:30 PM
I found some of it, do you want it back? :lol:

tlgerdes
08-08-2014, 02:32 PM
My problem is travel induced. Every time I travel I put on 3kgs, it takes me 4 weeks to work it off.

The old saying climb the stairs to jump out the window is too true for me.

multiweb
08-08-2014, 02:40 PM
Opposite here but same result. Sedentary work from home sitting 12h a day in front of the computer. Realistically you can lose up to 2kg per month. 300-500g a week is excellent. If you can't exercise try to eat less and drink more water.

shelltree
08-08-2014, 02:44 PM
Cheers Marc :D

I did a 12 week challenge at the beginning of the year and have managed to keep off 10kg of the weight I lost during that time. Life has been very hard this year with a really rough break up and moving house because of it so I have found it very hard continuing the downward trend.

Back into things now with a far more maintainable plan. I have a weekly allotment of 10,920 calories and if I stick below that each week, I have a loss! This means cycling of calories. Some days I have really light days (1200 or under), some days I stick to my "daily limit" of 1560 calories and once a week I "use" my deficit to have a cheat day.

So far the results are incredible with losses each week and I certainly do not feel deprived! It's all about moderation and portions and making sure those "occasional" foods stay occasional! And keeping the body guessing!! :D

multiweb
08-08-2014, 02:58 PM
Good stuff. Sounds like you're on top of it.

I'm about on the same weekly target. I aim for a calorie deficit of 500cal/day. My target is around 1650cal intake. I burn between 300cal and 800cal if I do weights.
Weight training is very good because you still burn calories the following day. So it's good to alternate. Go hard on week-end then rest Monday/Tuesday, bit of cardio rest of the week and cycle it again.
My cheat day is Kebab Wednesday :)
Otherwise I eat loads of avocados, pumpkin soup, beans, lentils. Unsalted nuts. I actually found I lost weight at a faster rate eating nuts so whatever works.
Some cool foods to lose are cauliflower which have a nill nutritional value. I wonder why we even pay for that stuff :lol:, but hey, that'll keep you full and you won't put on.
What's your target weight? What's your BMI now?

shelltree
08-08-2014, 03:29 PM
It's working so far :) the aim is 500g a week minimum and so far I've exceeded that during the 3 weeks I've been on the plan.

Weight training is good fun. I tend to stick to Kettle bells as it's both cardio and weights plus I have a really bad shoulder so find light weight exercises better. I try to do cycling, jogging and walking as my main cardio but find that is very good for shredding weight as well due to increasing muscle the longer and faster I go.

But yes, I try to at least have a couple of rest days between weights to let the soreness subside :lol:

I find I eat a lot of whole grains, fruit, yoghurt etc, more than anything. I can't eat red meat or chicken so am a bit limited! I am more than comfortable to eat light during the day but night time is my weakness. I'm likely to grab for bread the most, I have a weird pallet where I could just eat some bread for dinner and be happy. A bad habit to make though! :lol:

Am trying to substitute with easy vege meals. I make a mean cauliflower soup :D which as you say has next to know value ;) - I also make an excellent bean burrito with salad which is always good!

BMI is currently sitting at 29 :( Currently sitting at 90.2kg :( Another 15kg and I'm in the healthy range :lol: Another 10kg after that and I've hit goal (65kg)... :rolleyes:

multiweb
08-08-2014, 03:41 PM
That's great. It's when you're not sore anymore that you know it's time to change your routine. Do you do core training at all. Plank, side plank, swissball exercise? I know they kill at first but it's good for you. Lots of sit ups, push ups (on our knees to start with). Basically all bodyweight exercise. Only gets easier :)


I'm French. Love my bread and yogurts so I still eat them. I eat about two yogurts a day. They're the Yoplait Forme. They're low on sugar. Only 68cal per tub. Don't eat the SKI brand. 250cal per tub :eyepop: So I still get my fix. Try to grill or toast your bread. It breaks all the gluten, you digest it faster and it won't register the same calorie count.

You're doing good. Keep at it. :thumbsup:

Amaranthus
08-08-2014, 04:11 PM
I have two days per week when I eat nothing - typically Mon & Fri because it's convenient. I stop eating about 7:30pm on the night before and then eat lunch the day after, so typically a 40-46 hour break. Just water and coffee.

I find if I do this then I can eat normally (generally healthily, but with room for snacks/treats etc.) and stop worrying about counting calories etc. - I've found a nice equilibrium at a BMI of ~23 this way.

From a medical basis, there are huge physiological benefits to occasionally sending your body into catabolic mode (which happens during fasting).

I eased myself into this schedule (it is now not difficult) by starting with 24 hr fasts. But the problem with the shorter duration is that you get less physiological benefit and, from a calorie perspective, still eat every day, and so have a tendency to pack it all in to one meal at the end of the day!

multiweb
08-08-2014, 04:35 PM
What are they? My understanding is that you would lose muscle mass so lower your metabolism therefore more likely to put weight back on and more? :question:

Amaranthus
08-08-2014, 04:48 PM
No Marc, the muscle loss and slowing metabolism ideas are a (common) myth (http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html). The body has plenty of places to go to source energy before it reverts to muscle tissue, starting with glycogen stores, then fat stores. Muscle is unaffected in the first 72+ hours of a fast (typically a LOT more, especially if you're not already on a starvation diet!).

If you want the full details (lots of reference to the medical literature on this, read "Eat Stop Eat" book). Here is a recent article describing some of the medical benefits:
https://news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-triggers-stem-cell-regeneration-of-damaged-old-immune-system/

BPO
08-08-2014, 05:39 PM
I'm down to 127 kg.

mithrandir
08-08-2014, 05:43 PM
A bit of melanoma surgery and 7 weeks of radiotherapy got me from 132kg down to 107kg.

multiweb
08-08-2014, 06:02 PM
Interesting read. I guess our ancestors had a few days in between lunches so it must be built-in. Having said that it never worked for me. Every time I stopped eating for a short period or dramatically reduced my food intake it rebound on me and I tended to gain more later down the road. Since then I've always been conscious not to 'starve' while dieting and not over do it. I find I'll lose wait during periods of rest and upping my food intake for a few days, especially fibre.

shelltree
08-08-2014, 06:23 PM
May as I ask what your starting weight was? :)



Andrew mate, that's horrible :( I hope you are slowly on the mend now? All the best, wishing you a speedy recovery!

I have heard many good things about fasting and know someone personally who use to weigh 130kg and is now set to weigh in at 76 point something on Sunday! This is actually the basis for where my regime came from, although fasting for me working full time is not an option.

Instead I try to have really low days from Sunday to Wednesday (Thursday morning being weigh in) then I cycle between 1200-1560 Thursday and Friday. Saturday is generally 2500 calories then back to strict the very next day. In three weeks I'm down 3.5kg so it's definitely keeping my body guessing.

Marc, I haven't done a whole lot of core work just mainly kettle bells and arm weights. As for legs, that's all been from cardio related exercises (I'm the fittest and toned I think I've EVER been). I did decide to give planks a go and managed to do 4. 2 x 20 secs and 2 x 25 secs. Also managed to do this splits again! :D

I'll definitely have to start adding in more weights to my regime and get back into jogging once I've lost a few more kg's.

Bread isn't really so bad at all. Even white bread rolls are generally not so bad calorie wise. I find if I eat what my body is craving within moderation and portion controlled, then I do still lose weight. I love those Forme yoghurts :D I also like the Ski Soleil brand as the vanilla is quite low cal and delicious with banana!

Thanks for the heads up with toasting the bread, I'll have to make a habit of it!

At the end of the day, it's really all about finding a balance that works for everyone as an individual. For me, it's cycling and being super strict most days so I can have a cheat day. For some one else it may be different though.

Amaranthus
08-08-2014, 06:45 PM
Shelley, I don't see the connection? I work full time - no impact.

shelltree
08-08-2014, 07:09 PM
Because I'm a giant wimp and I love my food :lol: Not sure I could fast for a day, although I know the less you eat one day, the more calories you could eat the next... haven't had the willpower to try it yet!

multiweb
08-08-2014, 07:14 PM
Core work is hard to start with especially when you're heavy but that's the best way to get really strong and shed heaps of kilos because you engage so many muscle groups and they're compound exercises. Try Pilates and body weight exercises with a swissball. You'll get super fit in no time because you have to keep your balance. Doing push ups on two swissballs is much harder than on the ground.

Jogging is a bad idea if you're still heavy. Watch out for the knees. Cross trainer on the other hand will get you the same work out with no impact on the joints. If you jog on it that is, you need to keep the revs up. One really good exercise by far is the rowing machine. You work out pretty much every muscle on that thing. Just gotta watch your back and keep proper form.

shelltree
08-08-2014, 07:20 PM
I completely agree. The heart rate shoots straight up as soon as you begin a plank and I can feel all the muscles EVERYWHERE working at once. I'll definitely have to give Pilates a try or a more strength based yoga also.

As for jogging, I don't do it often as I have a really bad ankle. Mainly just intervals more than anything. But yes, I need to watch myself. Just because I'm fit enough, doesn't mean I'm light enough! I have found cycling is a great work out for me without the impact, heart rate is up my entire route (as it's mostly uphill) so I really feel it. But I'm no where near as puffed and my legs can handle it pretty well now which is an amazing feeling! :D

I'm still so blind sided sometimes to how fit I actually am until I try something and wonder why I'm not absolutely dying :lol: Not to say I'm super fit but I've come a long way in the past six months!

Will try to spice things up from here on out, shock the body even more into giving up those stubborn kg's ;)

BPO
08-08-2014, 07:30 PM
Approximately 4.5 kg according to the birth certificate...

:D

shelltree
08-08-2014, 07:36 PM
:lol::lol:

tlgerdes
08-08-2014, 08:16 PM
I feel sorry for your mother.:lol:

multiweb
09-08-2014, 06:57 AM
Anything out of your comfort zone is good for you without over doing it. Outdoors cycling is also great. When the weather warms up, get out there for an hour early mornings before the day heat.

hobbit
09-08-2014, 08:21 AM
Some good suggestions in this thread. I'm trying to go from 70kg to 55.

The_bluester
09-08-2014, 09:22 AM
I should read through the lot too. I am in the overweight range but not by a whole lot. My problem is a sedentary job induced (Ten years on my bum in an office and little time outside that) bout of fatty liver. Very luckily caught with only the very first signs of cirrhosis, so minor that a biopsy was required to find them.

In a nutshell, the direction from the quack was "Loose weight, do exercise" and while the last couple of months have stopped that temporarily, I am back on the horse again now. I have put a couple of KG back on but had dropped 12KG since Christmas last year, aiming for another 8 which would put me well into the "Healthy" BMI range.

Quite apart form the liver, it did spur me on to regain at least most of the fitness I used to have, and 40 minutes on the treadmill (Not keen on running on the road in low single digit temperatures and fog) does give you a nice endorphin buzz to start the day with.

lazjen
09-08-2014, 10:28 AM
Just a note of caution, don't get hung up on BMI. Check out the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index) for more details on the problems with it. It really shouldn't be used as an indicator.

I prefer to use other methods to determine how healthy I am, including blood tests for body fat percentages; measurements like waist, hips, chest, etc.; fitness - stamina, weight lifting, etc.

Currently my on scale weight is about +10-15kg more than the top of the range for the "ideal BMI", and while I can definitely afford to lose more fat, I'll never really meet that BMI value. One reason is that I try to gain muscle mass at the same time as losing fat. A couple of years ago, I did a program and lost about 30 kg of fat, but gained about 5 kg of muscle mass in the process. So, now as I'll try to take some more of the remaining fat away, I'll be replacing some of the lost weight with muscle increase instead.

If I was focused on BMI, I'd never succeed, but with more measurable goals, I can see progress (or lapses *sigh*) easier.

pgc hunter
09-08-2014, 02:03 PM
Will walking for a good hour every day achieve weight loss? I heard it does but how effective is it?

I also plan to cut the beer back to maybe 1-2 nights a week. It contains a surprising amount of calories :eyepop:

lazjen
09-08-2014, 02:23 PM
Walking for 1 hour day, every day will be quite effective, depending on your level of activity already. If it's above and beyond what you do and not a replacement for other exercise, you'll get great results.

However, you should increase your water intake for best results AND do not increase your calorie intake.

multiweb
10-08-2014, 07:02 PM
That's true too. Some charts are a joke. I found this one to be about right.

The_bluester
11-08-2014, 09:03 AM
I don't get hung up on bmi. I am just using the middle of the generally accepted "healthy" range as a target for myself.

Regards walking, my fitness was a long way down to begin with and I started at about 40 minutes per day walking. I was dropping nearly 1kg a week for the first six weeks or so. But I was walking pretty hard.

multiweb
11-08-2014, 09:23 AM
To drop 1kg per week it has to be mostly fluids or you are severely overweight. Maximum of 500g of fat a week is more like it and it requires a lot more than walking.

eddiedunlop
11-08-2014, 10:20 AM
My sympathies Peter.

My wife just finished a course of radiation for breast cancer secondaries in her neck/shoulder lymph nodes. She too lost a lot of weight and the burns were horrible. However I think her taste and salivary glands are relatively unscathed.

Best wishes,

Martin

Exfso
11-08-2014, 12:02 PM
Thanks Martin. It is a while since I put that up, I have put on about 8kg by eating all the wrong stuff, that slides down. The bad part is because I have not been getting anywhere near enough fibre I now have diverticulosis. They don't tell you about any of this when they hit you with the radiation-MONGRELS:mad2:

lazjen
11-08-2014, 01:05 PM
Ah no, that chart is pretty bad as well.

The problem is trying to have these bands based on height and weight alone. There are more factors involved to determine if you're obese/unhealthy/etc.

multiweb
11-08-2014, 01:15 PM
What's bad about it? :question: Where do you fit on it? I'm on 71kg - 178cm.

shelltree
11-08-2014, 01:51 PM
True that BMI is certainly not the be all and end all. Especially if you've built a fair bit of muscle! Mine is based on what I think I need to be in order to have the figure I want. When I was sitting around the 77kg mark, I knew for sure I could easily lose another 10kg or so. That is mainly what I'm basing it on. However, it will be trial and error the closer I get.

I may decide 68kg is enough, especially if I'm doing a lot of toning. All in time, I've got awhile to think on it! :lol:

Weight loss is simple but only if we keep things simple!

Regular exercise, eating the right foods and portion control are the key factors. I'm also a firm believer of not depriving yourself! The moment you make something an "off limits" food, the more you want it! Deprivation leads to cravings and cravings lead to eating even more of the bad food than if you'd controlled it and worked it into your lifestyle.

So sure, have that piece of cake but know you have to work for it somehow. Whether that's "banking" calories by having a lighter day or exercising harder, the short fall needs to balance out somewhere.

Being strict and depriving yourself day in a day out is not good for the soul. In your journey you need to be happy both mentally and physically. It has taken me a LONG time to realise this. I'm a sucker for fast results so constantly I would be limiting my calories to really low numbers and exercising like a machine!

But that's not what this is all about...it's about lifestyle. The change is forever so you need to be able to live with it ;)

Anyway, checking in. I weighed myself on Saturday before my cheat day out of curiosity and was up 700g :sadeyes: I did test myself out on Friday night and did some planks and the splits and some yoga stretches and my muscles were SORE on Saturday. So maybe I was retaining fluid because of that and building muscle...plus I had an amazing fish burger Friday night. Well within cals but was still on the heavy side.

Having a super light day today to shock my body into overdrive. Really not as bad as I thought, I'm certainly not going to die :lol: Will check in tomorrow!

multiweb
11-08-2014, 02:03 PM
Depending on what you eat your weight can go over well a kg. If you go out and up your sodium intake by eating processed then you retain fluids more easily and will be heavier. But don't despair, by no mean does this say you've put on weight. You can't put on weight that quick, nor can you lose it that quick. It would take a good week of it to start building on some fat.

At the end you're dead on when you say it's a long term commitment and a change of lifestyle. So you can't deprive yourself of the good stuff and be miserable. Just in moderation and if you indulge then as you say, some time down the line you have to exercise a little.

This graph I've posted I think is valid for the average body type, unless you're built like a footy player and have 90% solid muscle mass I think it's safe to say the figures are conservative.

Shano592
11-08-2014, 02:24 PM
Don't let the scales be your determining factor!

If you start to put on muscle, as it is denser than fat, then you will never be happy. The numbers will lie.

I have found that the tape measure is a much better barometer of where you are at.

Keep your proteins and good fats high, and keep your carbs moderate to low, and you will get results that you will be happy with. Train your body to use protein and fat as the primary fuel source. The fats also aid in transferring toxins out of the body.

Regarding BMI: Apparently, according to the BMI charts, nearly every elite rugby league and union player is obese! Such is the effect of muscle on the scales!

I was reading that some pockets of France are the longest lived populations in the world. This coming from folks who consume cheeses, wines and fermented foods on a daily basis. White bread and rice isn't on the menu. I think it says something ...

shelltree
11-08-2014, 02:33 PM
I do try not to, Shane but what can I say, at times I still want to throw them out the window! :lol: I'm also doing a 12 week challenge so the numbers are important for me... I try to take it with a grain of salt though and evaluate WHY my figures may have gone up.

As Marc says, high sodium will retain water and muscle and the mending of muscle is also a culprit. I need to try and remember that and not have a mental breakdown every time the scales say I've had a gain :lol:

I took measurements back when I first started my 12 week challenge (January) and since then my combined measurements (waist, bust, thigh, arm, abs) have decreased by 60 inches. I can also fit into my old jeans again which is an incredible feeling! Onward and downward ;)

Paul Haese
11-08-2014, 02:46 PM
12 months ago I was 109kg. I stopped junk food, reduced sugar markedly (though not altogether) and I went from walking 2.5km a day to 5km + a day. In Autumn this year I weighed 91kg, but by mid winter and still doing the same regime I have stabilised at 94-95kg. In spring I plan on the next step to reduce my stabilised weight to 90kg by mid winter next year. Calories in / calories out. I did this 10 years ago and it worked then too but I slackened off and let my sugar intact go up. Keeping processed food down helps a lot too.

multiweb
11-08-2014, 02:52 PM
That's the thing. They probably haven't gone up. I got really peeved last month. I put on 1kg and I couldn't shake it off. I wasn't eating more or doing anything different. I took 5 days off training and when I went back on the scale I had lost 2kg. I reckon sometime your body needs its rest. That's the only way I could make sense of it all.



:lol: Unfortunately yes. The scale takes no prisoners.



That might be true for older generations as they hardly eat any processed foods. But I can assure you the obesity problem is reaching France and many other countries in Europe. I'm convinced it's linked to added sugar and sodium intake rather than lack of exercise. It's close to impossible to avoid these two unless you prepare your own meals with fresh stuff.

Wine consumption might help too but I can't vouch for that. I drink beer as well. :)

shelltree
11-08-2014, 03:10 PM
So very true, Marc...the body knows what it needs! I find the weeks I really stress about my weight or don't eat enough because I have too much going on, is when I gain weight. But then I usually have a day off because I'm irritated at the scales and suddenly I've had a loss again! :lol:

The body works in mysterious ways...we just have to try and listen as best we can!

Shano592
11-08-2014, 03:14 PM
This is the same thing that is happening in China.

Every time we go back, we see more and more Chinese, who for their whole lives have had a local menu, succumbing to the vices of McDonalds, KFC, Starbucks. And they are embracing it with such gusto, the results are already starting to be seen.

They are amazed that we won't go near it, and prefer the authentic Chinese foods. But we can already see the effect it is having. The Chinese healthcare system is about to be overrun, and traditional medicine will be hard pressed to do anything about it.

I have to say, Marc, that I have just started trying this traditional Euro diet, and it takes some getting used to, coming from high carb. The results are yet to be seen (one way or the other). My fats and oils are up around 200g per day. Protein 80-100g, with carbs around 30-40g.

Fats and oils are predominantly cocunut oil, olive oil, and butter. Coconut oil is a medium chain, and ignites fat burning. The butter builds HDL cholesterol, which binds toxins, and helps to clear them (particularly heavy metals). Protein from meats and whey protein isolates (because I'm lazy). Carbs, I just seem to inhale, no matter where I go.

I'm 180cm, and the scales say I am 83kg. When I was 75, i was in the same jeans I'm in today, so go figure.

multiweb
11-08-2014, 03:33 PM
I eat a lot of unsalted butter and cook with a lot of olive oil. I just like the taste of it. I think the margarines taste disgusting. In the end if you take fat off food it doesn't taste good anymore, so to make it more palatable they add sugar. Same goes with low fat/skim milk. I now can taste the sugar in it and I never add any sugar to anything. When you cut sugar and lower salt after a few weeks your food starts tasting different and you can taste sweetness in everything. Same happened when I gave up smoking. Got my tastebuds back. I think sugar does the same. You get used to it and it just masks the real flavour of food.

I reckon that's why all those Jenny Craig and other low fat diets are BS and eventually fail in the long run because they're not sustainable. They're loaded in sugar. Or worse those meal replacement chocolate shakes. You just develop a sweet tooth then hit the wall later on.

Shano592
11-08-2014, 08:05 PM
I think you hit the nail right on the head, Marc.

shelltree
11-08-2014, 08:07 PM
Thankfully I've never had any issues with my sodium levels. I very rarely add salt to things and generally steer clear of salty foods. Don't know why, I just don't really like it that much. I even find cheddar cheese is too salty after a few slices. My sodium levels are about 2mg away from being too low and unfortunately I'm border line anaemic too.

I have to try and up my iron levels as I cannot eat red meat or chicken. But yes, good fats are great and really good tummy fillers. I really need to cut back on my bread intake though, I guess it's a work in progress.

Well, made it through my super light day. Will see how my numbers fair in the morning :rolleyes:

The_bluester
11-08-2014, 08:31 PM
I did drop about a kg per week for about the first six weeks, there was a lot of walking involved plus a change in eating habits. I don't do crash dieting but bad habits crept in at work over years which I stopped pretty cold.

Unfortunately other things have interfered pretty badly since, the routine was comprehensively broken by the February bushfires and between that and a high stress year at work it has been very difficult the last six months. When you are mentally fragged from work it is hard to get yourself up at 5 am to get on the treadmill. I am looking forward to longer days and warmer weather as taking the dog for about a 4km walk a day after I got home really helped get the km up.

lazjen
12-08-2014, 09:14 AM
Using your chart, I'd have to be a max of about 75kg (173cm) to be in the "healthy" range, which is complete rubbish.

As I said earlier, I did a program - it was with a dietitian at a weight management clinic that looked at everything: diet, exercise, sleep, etc. With that in mind, my target healthy weight was around 82 to 87 kgs (for the program's duration I was aiming to get to 94 kg), assuming no muscle mass loss (while on the program). At the end of the program I got to 89 kgs, gaining some muscle. (Side note: I also managed to clear all my medical issues at the time too - including blood pressure, cholesterol, etc - I removed the need to take any regular medication)

I'm currently 96 kg (about 2 years after the program ended). Of the 7kg I've gained, some is muscle mass, but I've slipped up a bit here and there, so a good proportion is probably fat (although my waist/hip measurements are still about the same). I know I've gained muscle mass as I'm consistently moving heavier weights (and more of them), plus higher resistance on cardio machines, etc.

I know I have to lose some fat (obviously since I've regained some :) ), but there's no way that I'll ever lose over 20 kg from where I am now to get to that ludicrous figure on that chart.

shelltree
12-08-2014, 09:18 AM
Good on you, Paul! I completely agree that when you're drained, the last thing you want to do is haul yourself out of bed to exercise! I am looking forward to the warmer weather too.

Well, at least until it reaches the mid 30's, then I'll be cursing it :P

multiweb
12-08-2014, 10:28 AM
96kg for 173cm? Each to their own but it's way over the line IMHO. I can't see that work even if you're built like Arnold.

lazjen
12-08-2014, 10:50 AM
I didn't say that I was in the healthy range yet. 82-87kg is what I need to aim for. I object to the 75kg figure though - always has and always will be wrong.

shelltree
12-08-2014, 11:04 AM
Each to their own, I say :D It all comes down to the individual and the composite of the body. For instance, I'm still edging into the 90's but I'm far more toned than I have ever been at this weight, so I tend to look a bit smaller than I actually am.

Something I struggle a lot with is appreciating what I have. I am always looking too far forward to a weight that is still significantly out of reach instead of being happy with what I've achieved and gradually chipping away at it. It's hard to gain perspective but still stay motivated about future goals. All a balance, I guess.

Well, I very nearly flung my scales over the verandah this morning :lol: Even after my extremely light day yesterday, I am UP 1.2kg :mad2: But I know it's all to do with bloating etc, as can sometimes happen :rolleyes: Still very frustrating and demotivating to see those numbers on the scales.

Many people have told me to throw them out! I'm inclined to do so...or at least lock them away for awhile :lol: I guess I find it's the easiest way of keeping track and making sure what I'm doing is working and that my body does not become complacent or plateau.

How does everyone overcome this? I find it very disheartening seeing a gain when I've been doing everything right. I know it will pass in time but it's hard to maintain that perspective in the moment :lol: I think I'm just thoroughly frustrated as well because I am so close to the 80's, I feel like it's breathing down my neck, beckoning me... :P

I just have to have some patience I guess ;)

multiweb
12-08-2014, 11:14 AM
Set smaller goal posts so you see some progress.



That's the key words. You can't put on weight if you did. Those are just normal fluctuations but the big pictures is still ticking down bits by bits.

If it upsets you just weigh yourself once a week.

lazjen
12-08-2014, 11:18 AM
Perhaps instead of just looking at the scales, take other measurements as well? For example waist, hips, etc? Track food and water intake - not necessarily super-accurate, but for example how many carbs you intake, etc (whatever categories you like to track - I do carbs and protein mostly). Try to measure how much exercise you do, etc. Even if it's not accurate, you might be able to do relative measures - e.g. 75% of "normal" exercise day, etc.

Maybe that can give you more of an idea of what is happening and you can put scale changes in context?

The_bluester
12-08-2014, 11:24 AM
I should put in, my starting weight at the end of 2013 was about 93KG (A bit of a guess, the old scales were very inconsistent so I bought new ones, which seem to read higher. I am estimating what the new, higher reading ones would have put me at) I am about 176cm tall.

I got down to about 82 on the new scales a couple of months back before the wheels fell off and am sitting at about 86 now, and have just got a kickstart again on the training. All the usual measurements were following about the path I would expect as the weight came off. Plenty off the waist in particular (I never looked "Fat" as such, just in a bit too good condition with a bit more belly on me than I liked. It was most noticeable that all the trousers I have had for years were suddenly falling off me.

I am aiming at 75KG and clear, defined abs as a telltale of belly fat! (Yes, other exercises like situps and some light weight training in the mix too) and I am still looking to get there by the end of this year. 75KG puts me well into the "healthy" BMI range to use what little guidance I would trust BMI to give me.

Of most interest to me is keeping the fatty liver under control and just the generally better feeling life without the excess kilos and with better fitness.

Oh, and it has gotten to the point where it is cheaper and easier to take 5KG off myself than off my race car!

multiweb
12-08-2014, 11:57 AM
:lol: . Good for you.

shelltree
14-08-2014, 02:59 PM
I have pierced the veil! 89.8kg this morning :lol: woohoo! Aiming for the 88's by next Thursday ;) Slow and steady...

tlgerdes
14-08-2014, 03:09 PM
It's the trendline, not the values. As long as the trendline is pointing downhill you are going good.

Barrykgerdes
15-08-2014, 06:11 PM
All you fatties wanting to lose weight!

I just need to put some on (at 53 Kg)

Barry

Baza
18-08-2014, 07:38 PM
I've got 20 to spare Barrykgerdes & you're most welcome to it.

3 day fast last week, starting 5:2 tomorrow > 100kg before Christmas.

Barry

shelltree
22-08-2014, 10:08 AM
Weight is not budging this week. 90kg for weigh in so up 200g, back down to 89.8kg this morning with a no loss/no gain.

May have to look at my intake and change things around...exercised 6 days this week and everything. Very frustrating :mad2: