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marco
30-03-2011, 12:42 PM
Dear all, immediately after the Small Magellanic Cloud, here I am with a shot of the larger sister :P

It is a mosaic of 4 panels that collected more than 70 (:screwy:) hours of light, through 6 filters. Indeed this was my longest project to date that took lots of nights from the beginning of 2010 through the year end. I am not sure I will embrace another project like this one, indeed the difficulty of making mosaics of large parts of the sky and managing all possible gradients of the background summed with the necessity of having almost "perfect" flats requires a lots of efforts during the imaging session and during the processing of the final mosaic. Despite the long time I spent on it the background still has several defects I was not able to correct completely, but at least the final result is, according to me at least, quite pleasant.

What I wanted to show is the original spiral shape of this galaxy, fact that can be understood from the external faint parts.

Here is the link to the main page:
http://www.glitteringlights.com/Images/deepsky/13667287_YtYhj#1232596542_po38Z-A-LB

From there you can access to different sizes, including a full screen zoomify version up to 4000x4000 pixels, highly recommended.

Clear Skies
Marco

Octane
30-03-2011, 12:49 PM
Mind blown.

Just sensational.

H

jenchris
30-03-2011, 12:57 PM
I give up....
I can't comprehend the magnitude of such a task.
May I touch the hem of your garment?

mental4astro
30-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Magnificent!

I am most impressed. The level of detail, clarity and colour is stupendous.

Congratulations!

multiweb
30-03-2011, 01:15 PM
Another corker! Well done. :thumbsup:

marc4darkskies
30-03-2011, 02:19 PM
That's a fantastic image there Marco!! One of the best LMCs I've seen and well worth the tremendous effort you put in! Well done!!

Cheers, Marcus

TrevorW
30-03-2011, 02:54 PM
Superb !!!

OzRob
30-03-2011, 02:59 PM
It takes some dedication to do more than 73 hours of imaging on a single target. It's a wonderful image. I hope some of it rubs off on your neighbours....;)

marco
30-03-2011, 03:56 PM
Thanks H, Jennifer, Alexander, Marc, Marcus and Trevor, I am happy you like this mosaic :thanx:



Thanks Rob, actually the sky there is very good and helps a lot in pushing up the bar of what is achievable :)

Clear Skies
Marco

astroron
30-03-2011, 04:29 PM
Splendid effort Marco:thumbsup:
The best Lmc image I have I have ever seen taken with amateur equipment:eyepop:
Cheers

gregbradley
30-03-2011, 08:23 PM
Wow Marco you've outdone yourself. Magnificent image. Its interesting as it shows the LMC to be an S shaped barred spiral galaxy albeit somewhat distorted.

Rogelio Andreo move over, we've got Marco!

Greg.

Leonardo70
30-03-2011, 08:41 PM
WOWWWWWWW

Congrats Marco...

Stevec35
30-03-2011, 10:22 PM
EXcellent work Marco!

Steve

FlashDrive
30-03-2011, 10:23 PM
What can I say ... Just Outstanding .... What Talent you have...:thumbsup:

DavidU
30-03-2011, 10:31 PM
Unbelievable image ! You are one dedicated imager.

strongmanmike
30-03-2011, 11:08 PM
Well...that's a visual feast Marco, I enjoyed the meal, from the pappardelle HII to the polpette OIII bubbles, yumissimo :thumbsup:

Mike

JohnH
31-03-2011, 05:39 AM
What a materpiece; straight to the pool room with that one. Or as you put it "quite pleasant" which makes you a master of the understatemet!

dugnsuz
31-03-2011, 10:40 AM
Excellent image and superb outcome for such a labour of love.
Well done Marco
Bravo...
Doug

suma126
31-03-2011, 10:50 AM
wow amazing shot :)

richardo
31-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Seriously insane Marco, this is an epic undertaking and an epic result...:eyepop:

Gotta try an apod with this.. surely it'll get the vote!

Top of the shelf:thumbsup:

Rich

SkyViking
31-03-2011, 07:22 PM
That is easily the most impressive image of the LMC I have ever seen. It's simply a joy to swim around in the full screen zoomable version. And what a marathon effort at 73 hours! Outstanding work.

Also interesting to note how many bubble shaped nebulae there actually are in the LMC.

Phil Hart
31-03-2011, 10:17 PM
you are one crazy guy. that's incredible dedication to the cause and another amazing result.

so tell us more about your 'flat' adventures. are you using sky flats? you're operating remotely with a wide field so i don't know if you have much other option? what is the main software you're using to blend and adjust the mosaic?

Phil

Enrique
01-04-2011, 01:01 AM
Outstanding!!!!!!

Enrique

irwjager
01-04-2011, 02:35 PM
That's absolutely sensational. Your dedication shows in your work and you're shaping up to becoming one of 'The Greats'!

marco
01-04-2011, 07:04 PM
Thanks to all for the very kind words !



:lol: good to know I didn't get a "pasticcio" ;)



Hi Phil, I am using the flipflat and taking flats to the limit of my camera linearity to get the highest possible s/n (i.e. my flats go to 45K ADU)
Unfortunately the main problem is the natural skyglow, despite the location I am shooting from is very dark and free from light pollution, the natural skyglow on large field has different color response as you get closer to the horizon. In other words, on a 12 degree per side FOV you have different colors of the background and, since the altitude of the object changes during the exposures and not all exposures were take with the object in the same alt/azimuth location (not even during the shots using same filter) when you sum up the image and stretch a lot you get always the background not completely even..

As processing software, after the image calibration done with Maxim), I use only PS. As must-have plug-ins I have GradientXterminator (couldn't do without) and Noise Ninja (very useful). Spikes on stars (if can add some contribution to the look of the image) are done with StarSpikesPro plug-in.

Thanks again to everybody!

Clear Skies
Marco

atalas
03-04-2011, 11:24 AM
Wonderful!

iceman
04-04-2011, 06:35 AM
It's very unusual that I was choose the same person for another IOTW so soon after their last one - however this image was so mind-blowingly good that I couldn't resist choosing it as IOTW (http://www.iceinspace.com.au) this week, no matter how hard I tried - I just kept coming back to this image.

Congratulations on such a fine piece of work.

bkm2304
04-04-2011, 02:02 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else see a barred spiral here? Just askin'.:shrug:
Richard

Moon
04-04-2011, 02:27 PM
I'm a bit late to the party but I have to agree this is probably the best LMC I can recall seeing.



This place is getting more like reddit every day. Not that I have a problem with that.

tl;dr
Great Image.

gregbradley
04-04-2011, 05:17 PM
Yeah that's what I see. Wonderfully demonstrated.

Greg.

bkm2304
04-04-2011, 07:42 PM
Great, Greg! Now all we have to do is convince everyone else that a little messed up galaxy about a squillionth as big as a standard barred spiral is just that!

But joking aside, I actually do see a bit of a remnant there. Maybe so much mass has already been drawn off that it looks irregular even though once it was a barred spiral. Maybe someone with some knowledge about galaxy evolution/canibalisation can comment on just what the LMC was before it got "involved" with the milky way.:question:

Richard

Phil Hart
06-04-2011, 10:56 AM
Yeah.. that's the problem I ran into with my Rho mosaic, both with the 200mm lens and the QHY9 on the Tak E160. At least I know you haven't found any magic solutions ;)

I resolved next time to shoot the colour subs much higher up and not shoot anything as low as I did (I went down to about 30 degress altitude). The panorama stitching in CS5 is *much* better than previous versions for star stuff and did a good job with the 200mm lens shot, but will have to give the Gradient Xterminator thing a shot too.

cheers
Phil

gregbradley
06-04-2011, 04:04 PM
And I bet there is a tidla stream of stars from the LMC to the Milky Way. I wonder if there is any way of highlighting that from our perspective.

Greg.

csb
06-04-2011, 04:37 PM
That is what I noticed too and Marco states he tried to bring it out.

Amazing image!

Hagar
06-04-2011, 07:30 PM
This is really lovely. So much detail and such wonderful color. An effort well spent.

marco
07-04-2011, 06:02 PM
Thanks a lot Mike for your appreciation, am happy to had it IOTW :)



Thanks James!



Yep, not much magic behind, just lots of work http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/../vbiis/images/smilies/shrugging.gif



Thanks Craig



Thanks Doug!

Clear Skies
Marco

marco
07-04-2011, 06:11 PM
Thanks a lot Mike for your appreciation, am happy to had it IOTW :)



Thanks James!



Yep, not much magic behind, just lots of work http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/../vbiis/images/smilies/shrugging.gif



Thanks Craig



Thanks Doug!

Clear Skies
Marco

Irish stargazer
10-04-2011, 07:54 PM
:prey2:
Simply stunning. I didn't realise the LMC was a spiral- until now.

Paul Haese
11-04-2011, 11:18 AM
Wonderful image. Great field of view too.

alexch
11-04-2011, 12:50 PM
A truly outstanding result, Marco! Thanks for the views.

As for the spiral structure, I came across this deep image yesterday:
http://forum-images.pixinsight.com/carlos/lmc/lmc_large.jpg
(done by Carlos Milovic, from http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22862 thread)
She does look like a barred spiral to me on both your image and the one inked above.

Cheers,
Alex

marco
11-04-2011, 04:56 PM
Thanks a lot John, Paul and Alex for your appreciation :)



Yep, I saw this image as well and have to say it puzzles me a bit, since on my luminance file, despite the several hours of light collection under one of the darkest skies available I cannot stretch to get the view of this structure even if I equalize the summed fits. I will give it a try again, I would like to compare to see if the structure is actually there and exclude the possibility of flatting artifacts.. I don't have info on the lens used or imaging time for Carlos though so cannot compare the details..

Clear Skies
Marco

Leonardo70
26-04-2011, 05:48 PM
Marco, congratulations for today's APOD...:thumbsup:

Grande,
Leo

strongmanmike
26-04-2011, 06:46 PM
Yes well done Marco, it looks great up in lights :thumbsup:

Mike

gregbradley
27-04-2011, 07:46 PM
Congrats Marco for your NASA APOD. Well deserved.

Greg.