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davidpretorius
28-01-2006, 11:14 AM
Hi All,

not sure where these challenges are at the moment, with everyone at the star camp etc, so I thought I would give a rip at contributing.

I have aimed them at the newer members observing with the common equipment ie the 8" and 10" dob etc.

Post your comments and images in the thread if you get a chance.

Without further ado: Here are four from me!!!

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planetary nebula: NGC3242: "Ghost of Jupiter"
time: before midnight

My first observed planetary nebula (last night actually). Looking east at around 11:30pm at around 45 degrees, there were 4 pairs of stars that when looking from left to right looks like some descending stairs. These stars form part of the constellation Hydra. On the first step down, up and to the right of the right hand star (Mu Hydrae), lies this object. I found that in my 8x50 finder scope, this star and the planetary were in the same field of view. Easily viewable with the 12mm eyepiece and even bigger with the 6.5mm.

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double star: rigel
time: before midnight

I like this one, it presents a little challenge to resolve the double star and is often for me a good indicator of the "seeing" conditions. The main star is very bright and its little friend faint, but it is great when your eye picks the smaller one up. If you have been collimating and doing your basics, then this double is the prize for getting it right, "a bright big brother and its delicate little sister"

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groups of galaxies: constellations of Leo & Virgo
time: after midnight

Well apart from M68 and M53 and of course Jupiter, every other labelled object is a galaxy. Put in you highest mm eyepiece ie a 25mm or 30mm. If you have an ultrawide, then in she goes. Start with say the top star of the triangle of the constellation Leo and then slowly work your way up and to the right. Both of these galaxies should be in the field of view!! Not a bad bonus eh???

Where to stop?? go to the bottom right star of the triangle of Leo and then work your way right and down and there is another group.

Take some time and up your magnification. Your eyes need time over many nights to get used to what you are seeing. After a week or so, your eyes and brain know what to look for, so spotting new objects is a lot easier!!

Anyhow, we are waiting for Jupiter to get a little higher!!!!

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planet: Jupiter & his moons
time: after midnight, the later the better

This is going to be a good year for Jupiter, it will be high in the sky in a few months time, so not as much atmosphere to look through and it is getting close (closest in early may).

It is easy to spot as it so bright rising ESE at the moment from say 12:30am.

Look out for the great red spot and any moons shadows transitting across the surface. This planet spins very fast (10 hrs), so over a few hours you can see it change!!

A good object to test your new imaging skills. Put in a 12mm or 15mm and then see if you can take some pictures and some video. Once you get that down pat, maybe try a smaller eyepiece, but the image will move quickly across. Once you have some video, then come back and ask about a program called registax, it will help bring out the detail.

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Thanks for taking the time to read.

Please do not rush looking at objects, they will be there tomorrow night as well. There is lots of detail outside of the main shape. Ie jupiter and saturn are lovely, but have you concentrated on the moons for a while etc.

This is a case of "do as i say" not "do as i do", cos i reckon tonight will be the last observing night on earth as we know it and i have to cram as much in as possible. Maybe age will teach me patience and wisdom???

asimov
28-01-2006, 12:03 PM
Hi Dave.

Good one mate! I'm not ready to go back to visual just yet though.

Nice lil' report there, & good onya for posting!

davidpretorius
28-01-2006, 12:10 PM
thanks mate,

thought some astro would be good with all the crap that is going around at the moment.

i bet this thread count will number 1/50 of the controversial stuff!!!

ving
28-01-2006, 12:23 PM
i havent seen the ghost for ages! i'll have to hunt her down :)
if leo and virgo arent up too late i'll have a go at them too (i turn into a pumpkin at midnight you know).

thanks dave :)
just what we need :)

stinky
28-01-2006, 12:36 PM
Great - as a newb i'll help me 'focus' on something without wandering aimlessly around the sky. Sadly will miss the oppositon of Saturn but will try for some of the rest. Cheers.

NightOwl
28-01-2006, 02:04 PM
Thanks Dave :)

I haven't yet observed the "Ghost of Jupiter" or split Rigel, so something to aim for once the skies clear again.

davidpretorius
28-01-2006, 02:26 PM
pleasure nightowl and stinky.

nightowl, with your 10" you will be surprised how big this planetary is. I expected to have to put my 6.5mm in and really try hard to see it, but even my 12mm showed it!

beren
29-01-2006, 03:37 PM
:thumbsup: Top stuff Davo , good read mate.....the ghost is a favorite :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/beren/GhostofJupiterSmall.jpg

Chrissyo
29-01-2006, 03:45 PM
Nice shot there Beren. Do you know what the magnification was? I'll have a go once these clouds leave :) I got some pics of Rigel split as well at the beggining of this month. Nothing exciting though.

davidpretorius
29-01-2006, 03:51 PM
thanks beren and chryssio, thanks for the contributions. I will give both a go myself for imaging. I really want newbies to have cracks at these easier targets and all contributions are most welcome from the more experienced guys to help the new guys out!

davidpretorius
29-01-2006, 03:53 PM
chrissyo, i estimate 100 - 150x and a bit. this looks similiar to my 12mm view from the other night.

asimov
29-01-2006, 03:54 PM
Nice split Chrissyo!

I actually split rigel last time I was out with the toucam but deleted it thinking it wasn't all that exciting to post!? (DOH!)

Never seen the ghost.

Nice shot Beren!

beren
29-01-2006, 04:07 PM
Chrissyo Dav estimate is about right I think , the shot was taken through a 10"SCT using a 6.3 focal reducer , close to 110x I think. The Ghost is a rewarding object to find , much prefer the eyepiece view :)

gaa_ian
29-01-2006, 04:17 PM
Onya Dave, thats what we all need !
I will have to have a go at Rigel myself

Starkler
29-01-2006, 06:34 PM
Onya Dave :thumbsup:

Rigel is an easy split, my ed80 does it easily if the seeing is ok.

mickoking
29-01-2006, 07:11 PM
I was chuffed when last week I split Rigel with my 80mm short tube at X53. Hartung states that Rigel is a test for a 50mm.

davidpretorius
29-01-2006, 08:11 PM
heres mine from december, but i want to try again with the powermate 5x

Chrissyo
29-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Nice shot of Rigel there Dave, heaps better than mine! At least yours is actually round like a star should be :nerd: Good luck with the 5x Powermate.

ving
30-01-2006, 10:24 AM
sounds like daves collimation tool is working well :)

nice shots people :)

ving
31-01-2006, 12:20 PM
decided last night would be a good time to try one of your targets dave :)

rigel: yeah i know its easy in my 8", i could split it at just about any magnification. and yeah it'd seem a bit lame getting the scope out, letting it cool, and then just looking at rigel.....

so i didnt! I got out my poor old wobble-o-tronic 60mm f16 :)
talking about 2 steps back! I havent looked thru this scope since i bought my 8" and now i know why! wobbly tripod, dodgey plastic 1" focuser and even dodgier EPs.... i gave it shot anyhow. with a 4mm EP @ 250x i could just make out rigels partner. admittedly the seeing was pretty bad (3-4/10) and the sky wasnt at it darkest (still pretty dark tho). I scanned he area and saw m42, the trap stood out ok but the nebula was fairly faint, sigma orionis was pretty tho and all 4 stars could be seen clearly at 80x. oh and i saw the horse head.... (made that part up :P)

quite an adventure, and one i wont be doing again.l...

FYI, the wobble-o-tronic is up for grabs to anyone who wants to pick it up as i doubt it'll see day/night light again :)

davidpretorius
31-01-2006, 12:24 PM
thanks for supporting the thread ving, now i must go and look up "sigma orionis"

ving
31-01-2006, 12:32 PM
its the bright star above alnitak in the belt :)
very pretty dave, you'll like it :)

gaa_ian
31-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Our Feb. challenge will be getting a look at anything but clouds :P
These challenges are great though, I look forward to being able to tackle them again :drink:

mickoking
31-01-2006, 10:07 PM
Rigel with a 60mm DST not too shabby :thumbsup:

ving
07-02-2006, 12:35 PM
thnx mick :) wasnt easy...

ok heres another fer ya davo!

ghost of j00p neb: man i had a task and a half finding it. the problem was that i was out too early and not all the major stars in the constellation were visible yet. kept hopping around the wrong star you see! anyhow as it got darker and more stars were aparent the task got easier, tho i still stumbled accross it....
shows up as a definite blue planet looking object at 80x (15mmGSO SV) with plenty of other stars withinthe FOV. due to exeptionally bad seeing and 1/2 a moon being out no real detail could be seen, but at least the colour did, brilliant blue.
am going back to this one later...

also viewed: numerous open clusters near or in carina, and saturn which was a white blob... seeing must have been close to 0/10 its the worst i have been out in. i stared on saturn at 80x and could just make out the casini div, then bumped it up to 160ish and lost 90% of detail :(
i want better seeing damn it!

davidpretorius
07-02-2006, 01:21 PM
yes ving, i generally look for sirius when i step out side. it is nice and high, so has been very still for a while, but last night, it was twinkling shockingly.

no hope for any cassin division on saturn!

and this morning jupiter was the same!!