Oh no no vacancy in www

[supernova1965]

No more room for www addresses how will they fix it :question:

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/02/02/2629017/supply-of-internet-addresses-runs.html


P/S I have just noticed I have hit 2000 :cool:

[mithrandir]

That is "just" IPv4. IPv6 has been around for ages with its 128 bit address space. With 6 billion people on the planet and the way IPv6 addresses are allocated that is of the order of 10^27 addresses per person.

There has simply been no need to switch until now. Businesses using NAT have delayed the fateful day by years.

Most ISPs don't provide IPv6 to home users, and few consumer grade routers support IPv6. Cisco 8xx routers do. There are probably a few others, but I haven't been looking for long.

[Kal]

Oh noes it's the Y2K disaster all over again :P

[jjjnettie]

What would we do without the internet? I shudder to think.

Congrats on the big 2000 Warren. :)

[michaellxv]

Here are the official announcements.

http://www.nro.net/news/ipv4-free-pool-depleted

https://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2011/final-five

[kustard]

Yeah like Mith said, that's just IPv4... Let's hope we start to see more IPv6 infrastructure now.

[Barrykgerdes]

Maybe we would get some sanity back into the education system. :thumbsup:
People would need to learn how to write letters:thumbsup:
Hooray! no more facebook, Twitter, Utube and the havoc it causes.:thumbsup:

Of course there is the down side. No IIS :mad2::shrug::help:

Barry;)

[supernova1965]

So does anyone know if my router a Linksys WAG200G has support for IPv6 I have been googling and looking through the settings in the router and can't find anything about it and if it doesn't does that mean I need to upgrade:question:. This is my IPv6 status currently I know nothing about this IPv6 and am starting to study it now had no reason to before now but I am on it now.:D

[michaellxv]

Don't get stressed about it just yet Warren.

1. these notices are just that the central registery has made its final allocation to each of the regional registeries. We come under APNIC.
2. APNIC has just been allocated 3 /8 blocks of addresses each has ~16million addresses.
3. these will of course still run out but the current estimate is later this years ~ Sept.

IPv4 will not go away, everything will just keep running. It is only people who want to put new stuff on the Internet will only be able to get IPv6 addresses. There are various ways for the 2 systems to talk to each other.

If you do want to prepare, go and find out if/when your ISP will provide IPv6 support for its customers.

Yes, we will probably all need to go and get new modems but DON'T rush out and get one now. It will be a bit like digital TV. Both will exist together for a change over period. Initially we will get ripped off with the IPv6 modems, but then competition and volumes should kick in and they should be no more expensive than a current IPv4 model. That will be the time to change unless you find a compelling reason before that.

[supernova1965]

So does that mean that I will be able to access any website that is on IPv6 by a tunnel from IPv4 to IPv6:question:. Thanks for the reply:thumbsup:

[Octane]

The Government's going through an IPv4 to IPv6 transition program at the moment. It's an enormous project.

There's deeply entrenched bits of software (lots of B2B software) that doesn't have IPv6 capability and lots of alarm bells are ringing.

H

[michaellxv]

There will always be little pockets of websites that you won't get to. But any business that wants to survive will make sure they are accessible to both.

[michaellxv]

Governments have been encouraging and even legislating for IPv6 support in buisiness for some time. Problem is that most have been getting around it becouse everything they have been buying supports IPv6 for some years now. It's just that very few have implemented it.

Just prior to the GFC it looked like IPv6 was about to ramp up. The rest is history.

[gary]

It is funny how what Vint Cerf described as an "experiment" in 1977 never ended
and grew into the Internet as it is today. :)

As Cerf recently said, ""Who the hell knew how much address space we needed?"

So Cerf is urging everyone to get on with the transition to IPv6. But it won't be without some pain.



Interested readers, see "A Strategy for the Implementation of IPv6 in Australian Government Agencies - July 2009 (http://www.finance.gov.au/e-government/infrastructure/docs/Endorsed_Strategy_for_the_Transitio n_to_IPv6_for_Australian_Government _agencies.pdf)"



Interested readers, see "Are Australian ISPs ready for IPv6? (http://techgeek.com.au/2011/02/02/feature-are-australian-isps-ready-for-ipv6/)" by Terrence Hugh
at techgeek.com.

Computerworld have a feature today, "IPv6: Everything you need to know (http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/375223/ipv6_everything_need_know/)", with
some useful links.

Whilst addressing the Internet Society of Australia last week, Vint Cerf "urged associations and businesses to take action on deploying IPv6, rather than continuing to talk."
Article at PCWorld here -
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/374247/action_talk_needed_ipv6/

The Internet Society has called for 8 Jun 2011 to be "World IPv6 Day".

See http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/

Use this link to test your IPv6 connectivity -
http://test-ipv6.com/

Some newer model routers may be provided with IPv6 capability via
firmware upgrades. But some equipment will need to be replaced.

[Jules76]

I should be all good to go when IPv6 is finally rolled out with my ISP. I've been told that firmware for my Billion Modem/Router adding IPv6 support is due to come out Q1 2011. :thumbsup:

[mithrandir]

I see the smiley, Kal, and I'll take it to mean you know it is wrong.

This attitude from the uninformed, aided and abetted by the sensationalist media, annoys me no end. Y2K was a real problem. Due to legal data retention requirements we had systems that had to be fixed before 1986-01-01.

The fact that it passed by with no significant problems was due to millions of hours of work by tens of thousands of IT people end design engineers around the world.

Andrew

[mswhin63]

Yeah i was thinking of this as well, Windows Vista and 7 are automatically ready for receiving IPv6 although not sure about XP.

[tlgerdes]

I was going to say the same thing, Y2K was a real problem. Bit as you said, perserverance, planning and just plain hard work by millions of people made a molehill out of a mountain.

IPv4/v6 will be another Y2K like problem, it is not going to stop the Internet, it just halts its expansion until millions of people put in the hard work to move the boundaries.

The big problem with IPv6 is that they threw out a great well understood technology and replaced it with a great technology that no one understands.

[OICURMT]

No wonder my computer doesn't work right... I've got too many numbers in my IP address... :bashcomp:

This author needs to research better... :question:

[mithrandir]

This always amuses me. TV and movies all seem to use invalid IP addresses, no doubt for the same reason their phone numbers are always xxx-555-xxxx so no real person gets pestered. (When Telstra issued 555-xxxx numbers in Sydney they were very unpopular.)

There are numerous correct ways to express an IPv4 address. The only strict rules are that you can't have more than 3 dots, and any number with a dot on its right can not be bigger than 255.

You do not have to express the numbers in decimal. The can also be in octal or hexadecimal. You can mix decimal, octal and hex in the one address. These are all valid and all mean the same address - 123.45.67.89 (which happens to belong to Samsung if anyone cares).

0x7b.0x2d.0x43.0x59
123.055.0x43.89
123.45.17241
0x7b.0x2d.0x4359
123.055.0x4359
123.2966361
0x7b.0x2d4359
123.013241531
2066563929
0x7b2d4359
017313241531

Scammers like using the stranger variants to obfuscate their IP.

[OICURMT]

Agreed, the problem I have is that the author explicitly stated that an IP number was a 2.3.3.2 sequence... obviously wrong.

As for the overall article, storm in a teacup, as the global internet is ramping up to the IPv6, supporting 2^128 (340 undecillion) IP addresses, thus the problem is eliminated for some many decades...


(BTW: World IPv6 Day is this June 8th...)