Log in

View Full Version here: : Lost 16"Mirror


astroron
17-01-2011, 02:38 PM
It seems the only safe way to get a mirror from A to B Is to take it yourself:mad2:
Only a few weeks ago another member lost his 12"?
with Australia post,eventually to be found, I hope I have the same result.
TNT have lost my Mirror and have no idea where it is :question:
I have had conflicting messages every time I call them :mad2:
The Tracking message on their site is the same message that has been there since last Wednesday:shrug:
It was picked up from Isaac on the 111/01/11 and no trace of it can be found:sadeyes:
Still waiting for a phone call to say what is the next step:rolleyes:
Cheers

astronut
17-01-2011, 02:44 PM
Ron, A very frustrating time for you. My mirror is about to be coated by Isaac, but at least I'm able to take it to him.
TNT's response is not good enough!!
Over the years, I've found that the only way to get positive results from any company is to keep on their backs!!
Don't deal with the drones, go straight to the top!!:):)

mswhin63
17-01-2011, 02:45 PM
I wouldn't wait for a phone call, I would implement insurance recovery proceedure immediately, that process has once for me in past sped up the finding of a missing parcel.

astroron
17-01-2011, 02:55 PM
Unfortunetly it was not insured as it was over $300.00 to insure it, with frieght and coating it would have been over $1100.00 to have the mirror done :shrug:
Cheers

astroron
17-01-2011, 03:01 PM
The Exersize of getting my Mirror seems to be Jinxed from the Start:rolleyes:
First the illuminising machine breaks down then I had to wait to get it fixed then the floods come so they hold the thing in Sydney and now they don't know where they have put it:help:
I think I would have been better putting up with the mirror the way it was till I could deliver it myself:mad2:
Cheers

Satchmo
17-01-2011, 03:19 PM
Hope it all pans out. Insurance with Australia Post is dirt cheap - probably no more than $30 for $1500 mirror. I've sent hundreds of mirrors around the country over the years and never had to make a claim on Australia Post- as far as I am concerned its a myth that they are at all unreliable with large items.

ngcles
17-01-2011, 03:23 PM
Hi Ron & All,

Jeez Ron that's terrible news. Hope it pans out. I know how I'd be feeling if it were me.


Best,

Les D

lhansen
17-01-2011, 04:01 PM
I'm sorry to hear that your mirror is missing Ron. TNT usually provide fantastic service. Australia Post lost 12.5" my mirror in late December and I'm happy to say that they found it 5 days or so later. I was concerned since it is a Zerodur mirror from my RCOS and would be expensive and perhaps difficult to replace.

I hope you have the same luck

Cheers

astroron
17-01-2011, 05:50 PM
Hi Mark,I thought it was too Heavy for Australia post, But found out later it was not:rolleyes::mad2:
Cheers

astroron
17-01-2011, 05:52 PM
Thanks Les, Fingers Crossed for a good out look:thumbsup:

astroron
17-01-2011, 05:55 PM
Thanks Lars, Latest news is it is not in Sydney and it is not in Maroochdore so they surmise it is some where in between:shrug:
Cheers

GrahamL
17-01-2011, 06:56 PM
Thats a worry Ron .. hopefully it shows up soon,, as late as thursday last week the hwy around grafton was closed in parts .. in the local news there were reports of truckies stuck having to wait it out in motels..and hitting the local pubs playing pool..
( the tone of the article seemed to suggest they didn't mind).

Kevnool
17-01-2011, 08:46 PM
Hope you get some good news out of this Ron.
I would be devastated.

Cheers Kev.

BlackWidow
17-01-2011, 09:17 PM
Hi Ron. I know this is too little too late, but this might be taken in by other members. As an online seller of Antiques I am often sending large items. I have found that Greyhound Bus service to be Very Very cost effective. They also don't use machines to process cartons, all is handled by hand. I have never had an item lost or damaged when using them. In fact I live in Adelaide and used them when I purchased my used LX200 10" from NSW. They collected it from the seller and transported it to me for $100. Very good value when we all know the total weight of a full 10" LX system. You name it I have sent it from surfboards to furniture using Greyhounds.

I hope you get a good outcome on your mirror. Very Very stressful.

Regards
Mardy

hotspur
17-01-2011, 09:31 PM
Sorry to read this Ron,this is not good.

I find Australia Post to be very good,interestingly though

over the years I have found some post offices say something is to

big,or heavy,take the same item to another-its all good,Although I

think its changed a bit now,everything is homogenized.

Never had much luck with TNT only used them a few times-there always

seemed to be an issue,and when the box arrived,looked as if it had been in an Avro Lancaster,may be they still use them.They lost my EQ 6 tripod,but the mount arrived.

I sold the mount,sent it by Australia Post-got to Adeliade in 3 days no problems,and we all know how much they weigh.

Hope to read and happy end to story.

Chris

astroron
17-01-2011, 09:32 PM
Thanks Everyone for your Concern:thanx:
As Storeman for both Telecom and Private Companies I have sent Stuff via TNT on many occasions without any Problems:)
but then the stuff being transported was not mine so I was not to concerned if it went Missing;)
I will just have to wait to see how it all pans out :shrug:
Cheers

Liz
18-01-2011, 11:24 AM
Yikes, thats terrible Ron ..... think positive thoughts, the mirror will return in 4 more days. :question:

astroron
18-01-2011, 11:46 AM
Thanks Liz, while reading your post I had a phone call from TNT to say it has not arrived at Maroochydore and will let me know when it does:shrug:,
He said It is definitely on a Truck:)
Here's hoping that is true :shrug:
cheers

Jen
18-01-2011, 12:02 PM
Jens running down the street with a 16inch mirror in her hands :lol::lol:

Oh g'day Ron :hi:sorry to hear about your mirror that would make jen jen really mad :tasdevil::tasdevil: :argue: Hope it gets returned to you real soon :thumbsup:

astroron
18-01-2011, 12:12 PM
Hi Jen and welcome back from your Holiday:)
I have my fingers and toes crossed that I will receive a phone call before the day is out saying it is in Maroochydore:prey:
Cheers

astroron
18-01-2011, 05:46 PM
Latest News is not good:sadeyes: Paperwork has arrived at Maroochydore Depot, but no Mirror and they still don't know where it is :mad2:

hotspur
18-01-2011, 06:10 PM
Really sorry to hear that Ron,I hope it turns up

I am happy to donate $20 towards an new one,I am sure many of here could

help Ron out if things go pear shape.if 100 ISS'ers donate $20 we can get him

a new mirror (sorry Ron I do not know what its worth,so forgive me estimate if its wrong).

Sorry I cannot donate more,But no income due to floods.

We ca'nt have you without a mirror Ron,it just would'nt be astrofest without

you and your 16 inch scope.

Cheers Chris

astroron
18-01-2011, 06:20 PM
Thanks for your generosity Chris:thanx: , but I don' think things are to that stage yet :help::thumbsup:

RobF
18-01-2011, 10:29 PM
OMG Ron. I hope this is sorted soon. What a pain.

Paddy
19-01-2011, 07:51 AM
How frustrating, Ron. Hope it turns up soon.

astroron
19-01-2011, 03:41 PM
It Seems it has arrived at the local Depot,but no ETA is available for delivery to here ,So I have asked them if I can pick it up, but that request seems to confuse them:shrug:
Awaiting on a call to see if this is possible:shrug::screwy::screwy::scr ewy::screwy:

Ric
19-01-2011, 03:47 PM
That's good you now know where it is Ron.

That should reduce the stress levels a bit.

Cheers

astroron
19-01-2011, 03:50 PM
Thanks Ric:thanx:
the only time I will be happy is when I have in my hands :D:thumbsup:
Cheers

Rob_K
19-01-2011, 03:54 PM
Good news Ron! :thumbsup: They've probably never had such urgent and insistent enquiry about a 'mirror' before - I bet they think that you are the vainest person on the planet... ;) :lol:

Cheers -

astroron
19-01-2011, 03:59 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
:hi:Rob,
They probably think I am PPIA ;):lol::lol::lol:
Cheers

hotspur
19-01-2011, 06:15 PM
Glad to hear some positive advancement on the location of the mirror Ron.

But,I do know what you mean-you will not be happy until its in your hands.

All the best for its safe arrival,and let us know when its back up and running.

mswhin63
19-01-2011, 07:02 PM
I alway pick up from their depot, they have always made it difficult to deliver. You should be able to.

Good luck with it.

Jen
19-01-2011, 07:23 PM
:clap::clap: woohooo Jen loves a happy ending :D

astroron
19-01-2011, 07:42 PM
:hi:Jen, the happy ending I hope will be tomorrow when I get it in my Hot little hands:D:thumbsup:
Cheers

jjjnettie
19-01-2011, 07:45 PM
Great news Ron.
We were really worried for a while there.

astroron
19-01-2011, 07:58 PM
JJ, this time tomorrow I hope to be all smiles:):):):thumbsup:
Cheers

supernova1965
19-01-2011, 08:02 PM
WHEW




So glad you have located this important equiptment

CometGuy
19-01-2011, 09:33 PM
Mate what a relief!..can't wait till its out under the stars again.

astroron
19-01-2011, 09:43 PM
Thanks, Warren and Terry:thanx:
I will be on tenterhooks until I have it back in my scope where it belongs :D
Cheers

ngcles
19-01-2011, 11:54 PM
Hi Ron,

Can't wait to get that baby back in your arms eh ? Don't blame you, I'd be the same!

Hope it all works out quickly!


Best,

Les D

P.S Gee Ron I see post No 5,000 is coming up pretty soon for you!

astroron
19-01-2011, 11:58 PM
Thanks Les:thanx:
We treat our scopes like Babies,pamper and love them:rolleyes::screwy::lol:
Yep not far now;)
Cheers

M54
20-01-2011, 12:01 AM
Enjoy the delivery tomorrow Ron!:)

Rick Petrie
20-01-2011, 10:42 AM
Good that you will be back soon with the mirror Ron.:thumbsup:
You should be happy with the resurfaced mirror, Isaac does a really first class job.
Hopefully clear skies now for you.:)

astroron
20-01-2011, 06:06 PM
I Picked up the Mirror this morning and the baby is now back in it's cradle :D
Thanks everyone for your thoughts for a happy ending to this thread:)
Cheers
PS I couldn't get the mirror at the right angle and smile at the same time:rolleyes::lol:

jjjnettie
20-01-2011, 07:17 PM
Yah!
Happy! happy! joy! joy!

astroron
20-01-2011, 07:30 PM
:thanx: JJJ :):thumbsup:
Cheers

GrahamL
20-01-2011, 08:58 PM
Thats great Ron .. did you toss in a frog to break it in ;)

astroron
20-01-2011, 09:06 PM
:lol::lol::lol:
Graham, Frogs are "Persona Non Grata" close to my scope from now on;)
Cheers

Jen
20-01-2011, 10:38 PM
:clap::clap::clap:
:party::party::party:
Woohoooo................
:D

AstroJunk
21-01-2011, 01:36 AM
Thank goodness for that Ron, I've been gringing watching this story unfold. But like everyone else, I do love a happy ending :)

astroron
21-01-2011, 01:47 AM
Thanks Johnathan:thanx:, so do I:D
Cheers

ZeroID
21-01-2011, 07:21 AM
And they all lived happily ever after ....The End :D

(Been watching this and had my fingers crossed for you )

astroron
21-01-2011, 09:56 AM
Thanks Brent, I am glad it had a good result for me :D
Now for a change in the weather to test it out:thumbsup:
Cheers

hotspur
21-01-2011, 10:15 AM
Really great to read,but even better to see images of mirror "Back in your hot little hands":)

So how long is that re silvering/treatment going to last? What factors make a mirror deteriorate?And approx how many years between treatment for dob owners to go through the torture you have just been through?

Sorry,for asking-I know nothing about dobs and jsut curious.

Cheers Chris

jjjnettie
21-01-2011, 10:50 AM
Any scope that has a mirror eg. newtonians and RC's, will experience light erosion. The photons, when they hit the mirror, dislodge the aluminium atoms. So eventually the mirror will need recoating. ;)
Some people of course believe that it's due to environmental factors like exposure to weather eg dew, dust, the occasional frog dropping and just plain old age.

astroron
21-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Thanks JJ for the above :thanx:
Chris, other things that contribute are continuous cleaning, extreme changes of temperature, and the quality of the original coating and the amount of time spent out under the stars.
I have had this scope about Ten years , so if I look after it is should see me close to the end of my Observing life:thumbsup:
Cheers

Ric
21-01-2011, 04:14 PM
Great news Ron.

Good to see mirror and owner are reunited again.

Happy hunting for those elusive SN's, no excuses now with a clean mirror:lol:

acropolite
21-01-2011, 07:49 PM
Good to hear you have your mirror back Ron.:thumbsup:

bartman
21-01-2011, 08:39 PM
Good on you Ron,
Looking happy as a pig in quagmire!
Happy AP'ing!
Bartman

astroron
21-01-2011, 08:48 PM
Thanks Ric,Phil and Bart:thanx:
I hope we get some clear sky's soon:D
Bart, Happy AP'ing!:question:
Cheers

bartman
21-01-2011, 09:21 PM
sorry Ron ...sounds bad now that I re-read it. Ap'ing= Astro Photographing....not really goodish Ingrelish... :)
mmmm now just thinking about it...do you do any AP with the Dob?
Must check youre previous posts....
Mental note...must do research before commenting:P
Bartman:thanx:

asimov
21-01-2011, 09:23 PM
G'day Ron. Glad you got your mirror back mate:thumbsup:

All the best.

astroron
21-01-2011, 09:27 PM
Thanks Bart,No Astro photographing with the 16" Dob:P, to Busy looking for faint Fuzzies http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/../vbiis/images/smilies/lol.gif:thumbsup:
Cheers

multiweb
22-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Good to hear you got your stuff back. 16" is a big chunk of glass to lose though. Auspost is not that bad ;)

astroron
23-01-2011, 07:48 PM
The 16" scope is set up Collimated and ready to get it's first light with the new Mirror:D
I just hope the small amount of clouds go away.
Report in the Observing thread if any is done:rolleyes:
Cheers