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marki
21-12-2010, 09:36 AM
This going to cause a little grief for my students.
http://www.iupac.org/web/nt/2010-12-13_2009-atomic-weights (http://www.iupac.org/web/nt/2010-12-13_2009-atomic-weights)
Full technical report here
http://iupac.org/publications/pac/asap/PAC-REP-10-09-14/ (http://iupac.org/publications/pac/asap/PAC-REP-10-09-14/)
Been a busy year for the IUPAC people, they are about to redefine hydrogen bonding as well.
Mark
CraigS
21-12-2010, 09:49 AM
Hmm..
This is a bit like renaming Pluto as a dwarf planet.
Did they take a vote on it ? (Perhaps everyone agreed so .. no need).
:)
Cheers
marki
21-12-2010, 09:56 AM
I am still trying to get over the changing of the periodic table from 8 groups to 18 groups. I have to correct myself all the time when discussing trends with my students, must be getting old :P
Mark
CraigS
21-12-2010, 10:00 AM
Here's another one for the chemists (and others) …
The old standard for the kilogram is about to be superceded …
Au revoir, kilogram (http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/44445)
Soon, farewell to the one kilogram cylinder !!
Adios !
:)
Cheers
OICURMT
21-12-2010, 11:05 PM
I think we should follow the KISS principle... list the weight as the LOWEST possible stable form of an element. Any other configurations of an element which result in a higher weight than the base element get a new symbol attached above the primary... enclosed is an example for Boron...
maybe we can think of something similar for the planets, dwarfs, asteroids, comets and fine particle dust...
renormalised
28-12-2010, 01:55 PM
That's what I call nitpicking. Yes, an element will have a varying atomic weight due to the difference which occur between isotopes of that element, but the basal element (i.e. C12, O16, N14) have a precise weight and are the ones that are used in chemistry. All they're doing here is saying "Oh, if you're going to do this and that, you'll need to use the precise isotope weight for the situation". Carbon, whether it's C12, 13 or 14, will still react chemically in the same manner, it's just that certain isotopes are favoured in various reactions due to their mass...lighter isotopes are easier to remove, energywise, than heavier ones.
Splitting the periodic table up into more groups than is necessary is just a waste of time. It's not being more precise, it's just being pendantic.
marki
29-12-2010, 01:16 PM
My thoughts exactly Carl.
Mark
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