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strongmanmike
24-10-2010, 12:17 PM
He he.. another view :P
Viewing the full frame data set in negative (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/129691575/original)really accentuates the extensive reach of the outer ejecta...cool :)
Hmm?...I wonder how many more different views I could put you all to sleep with..:question: :lol:
Other variations of the extensive data set can be seen here (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/gallery/helix_nebula)
Mike
TrevorW
24-10-2010, 12:37 PM
The negative image really defines the stucture IMO
strongmanmike
24-10-2010, 12:42 PM
How about this..... :D :zzz2::zzz2::zzz2::zzz2: :P
....ok not that funny.....:rolleyes:
h0ughy
24-10-2010, 01:36 PM
todays rain is having a peculiar effect mike
DavidU
24-10-2010, 01:42 PM
:lol:
Very nice indeed Mike, it gives a very different view of this fine object, well done.
Leon
gregbradley
24-10-2010, 03:38 PM
Cool shot Mike. The Helix is a very difficult target and you really need dark skies to catch this one.
I took about 5 hours of Ha on this one a few weeks ago and the result was a joke.
Perhaps in the no moon weeks.
Greg.
strongmanmike
24-10-2010, 10:00 PM
No a precipitatory one :P
It is such an extensive data set I gathered that it has been fun playing around with it for over a year now...it's my special long period processing (LPP) technique ;)
Mike
allan gould
25-10-2010, 12:09 PM
Its amazing how much extra detail a negative image is able to bring out in your shot. There certainly is a lot more going on than a quick first glance provides. Thanks for posting Mike.
strongmanmike
25-10-2010, 12:23 PM
Cheers Al
I have always been a big fan of images presented in negative, they always make the faint stuff a little more obvious and I recon they have a sort of old style deep emulsion plate look to them, like you would imagine getting straight off the UK Schmidt or AAT et al a while back...actually, be very interesting to see the raw UK Schmidt's red sensitive plate shot of the Helix area, would be awesome I'd recon :thumbsup:
Mike
TheAstroGuy
25-10-2010, 01:56 PM
Definately a great way of picking out detail, those halos/arms/outter ejecta really are amazing, i like the Ultra Violet image of this Neb, Spitzer's image http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/skyimage_2126_3672113
Kinda looks like the stargate whirlpool splash
Regards
Shane
iceman
25-10-2010, 05:13 PM
Woah - that negative view is superb. Incredible image.
It's now IOTW (http://www.iceinspace.com.au).
strongmanmike
25-10-2010, 05:18 PM
Yeh, you can really see the distinct shells where the nebulosity steps, I am assuming from various outburst periods in the past..?
strongmanmike
25-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Ah, cool mate :thumbsup:
Mike
multiweb
25-10-2010, 07:10 PM
That B&W helix is pretty hot. Love B&W pictures. Even inverted :evil: Congrats on IOTW. :thumbsup: Is there actually ANY prize that this helix shot of your didn't win? :P
MarkA
25-10-2010, 08:16 PM
Michael,
True inspiration and a great technical challenge.
Thank you for sharing
Mark
strongmanmike
25-10-2010, 11:09 PM
Well it has only "won" as you put it, the SPSP Astro's...
T'was only short listed in the Royal Observatory Greenwich contest aaaand David obviously hated it :rolleyes: :doh:
:thumbsup:
Mike
strongmanmike
25-10-2010, 11:19 PM
Thankyou Mark for your generous words, the hardest thing about compiling it in the first instance was the multiple packed car trips to my dark sky site and the too few short 60-90min cat naps in the car, in near zero temps, during sequence runs all on mostly work nights for a total of 7 nights over a 4 week period..:scared:
Mike
MarkA
26-10-2010, 11:01 AM
I quit then..., it’s to hard.
No, no I’m not at that stage yet I can see the proof and some one is showing me the way
Mark
marco
26-10-2010, 03:52 PM
Hehe, despite I prefer the positive color image, that one reminds me the glory days of TP2415, when I was anxiously looking directly the negative just seconds after I take it out the developer tank :)
Clear Skies
Marco
Hey Marco I can relate to that, as I too did my own processing using TP 2415 Hypered, those were good days and fantastic film.
Leon
Octane
26-10-2010, 08:00 PM
Congrats on IOTW -- well deserved!
H
alan meehan
26-10-2010, 09:26 PM
Thanks Mike a truly lovely shot of the helix it is amazing that we can view objects in the night sky in many differnt forms, your dedication is to be praised.:thumbsup:
AL
Hagar
27-10-2010, 08:54 AM
Well Mike, Simply brilliant. What can one say, its amazing the detail the negative brings out in the data. You definitely hold the record for the most views of an image but I think it has to go to you and Centaurus A. I think we all need to chip in and get you an obs so we see a bit more new work from you.
strongmanmike
27-10-2010, 09:12 AM
Well, thanks so much Doug, appreciate your kind words...it was very difficult to find the invert tab in PS and then press it :P
As far as the record you mention, as I have said before having a) a large high res FOV and b) lots of data collected, a single image would be such a waste of the hard work as it is impossible to show all aspects of some targets in a single image and I love the varied aspects many objects present especially those that haven't been showcased before :thumbsup:
As far as an observatory goes.. BRING it on, all donations are tax deductable......
Mike Repro Man :D
strongmanmike
27-10-2010, 10:10 PM
Yes Leon, but I could never have imagined hand-eye guiding for 27 hrs :eyepop:nor acheiving this sort of image density on film :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop:..the good ol days of developer and water trays etc remain fond memories though..in a sado masicistic kind of way :P
Cool huh? :P Cheers Humi
Hey thanks Al not sure about the praise bit but it is nice to have people enjoy something a little different :), heck many people these days in the age of 100% digital probably don't even now what the term "negative" really refers too :lol:
Mike
Paul Haese
28-10-2010, 11:30 AM
Nah, I think that honour goes to Anthony with his Bird Strike from last year. I think it was over 12,000 view. ;) Edit actually it was this year with 31,000 view, last year was only 24,000 view.
On to business. Great negative image Mike. Yeah I remember film, and no I would never go back to that.:)
One thing I would like to point out. There are plenty of nah sayers about Tak mounts not being as good as a PME. Sure the PME comes with a few extras but I have never seen and I repeat never seen data tighter from a PME than what you get nearly all of the time Mike. To the likes that often say Tak mounts are not worth buying, then this is an advertisement that they are worth buying. Sure they don't have a home position and that makes it hard to acquire your guide star night after night, but with results like this who cares. When those people produce results like this with your PME (and you know who I am talking about boys) and expensive scopes then there will be kudos. Until then, take a gander at this image taken with a Tak.
Yes I know the scope takes the image but the mount makes the image as sharp as the scope is capable. Well done Mike, going back to planning my next image.
Lester
28-10-2010, 12:12 PM
Fantastic depth to the Helix Mike. Thanks for the view.
strongmanmike
28-10-2010, 12:29 PM
Doug was refering to the number of processing variations some idiot :whistle: did on his Centaurus A not the number of thread views....although my Cen A album images alone at my web site have had over 20,000 hits in total (and it hasn't even been an APOD) ...shows just how wide reaching Birds amazing image was!!! :eyepop: and deservedly so.
The NJP is a purler for sure but the PME is certainly a force and has many more electronic capabilities than the smaller taka and a greater load rating of course.
Thanks for the kind inferences though Paulie :thumbsup:
Mike
:eyepop: image of the week, well who's da man ? Nice one Mike (again) LOL ;)
strongmanmike
28-10-2010, 11:42 PM
Yeh, it is the first time people can feel free to be negative about an image :P :lol:
Cheers
Mike
:lol::lol: smarty pants :P
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