Ya Too Slow, Here's Some Books, Suzy!!!!

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Here Suzy....

http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Science/Astronomy_Space/9781852338909/?cf=3&rid=541124256&i=1&keywords=astrophysics

http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Science/Astronomy_Space/9780805303483/?cf=3&rid=541124256&i=3&keywords=astrophysics

(the second one is fairly easy 2nd year astrophysics:))

http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Science/Physics2/9780321595584/?cf=3&rid=541124256&i=8&keywords=astrophysics

(even simpler!!!)

http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Science/Astrophysics/9780521278348/?cf=3&rid=541124256&i=18&keywords=astrophysics

(much like the previous book)

They should help you out with the physical process involved:)

[CraigS]

A walkin', fast talkin', text book salesman !!
;):)

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You just have to know where you can source your info from:):):P

[Suzy]

Oh Carl, you're so funny! I am laughing so hard right now. :lol::lol::rofl:
Have to go out now, but will read those links when I get back. :thanx:

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Those books should help you with the science. They're not too dear either, which means you should be able to buy all of them:P

By the time you finished reading them all, you'll know more than I do:):P

[CraigS]

Psst … $316 all up … and the last one is unavailable for purchase …

(Try Wiki .. its cheaper .. not as boring ..).
;)

[shelltree]

I have a lengthy list of books similar to this, including "Astrophysics is easy", in my cart on amazon waiting to be purchased :) May have to add more to the list... :P

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Yeah, but not as authoritative:)

[Suzy]

If anyone is confused over this thread, here's the story....

I have a another thread running in this section titled, "New Foxtel Series: How the Universe Works". Within that thread I made a comment to Carl and Craig that I wanted to learn more about stars and that I have been searching for books on stars, but have not been able to find any. To that I mentioned that I was going to start up a thread. Apparently Carl thought 30mts was too long to wait, so he beat me to it! :P:lol:

Now, I know why, I had trouble trying to find books on stars - I was using the wrong terminology wasn't I?! :screwy: Astrophysics is what I should have been looking under. :rolleyes:

In the last couple of months I have become very keen to know more about star formation and death and have been wiki'ing and printing a great deal of info to the point where I thought it was time to get a "real book". Then when I watched the Foxtel programme, "How the Universe Works" and it explained how gold is formed when a star explodes, I got even more hungrier for information. Fascinating stuff this!
So, basically I'm after a book that explains the breakdown of particles, fusion, info on some of those huge giants etc.

Carl, thank you so much for those links, I've had a look at them and I'm going to buy the first one you listed, "Astrophysics is Easy" by Mike Inglis. Only $40.44 (delivered) from The Book Depository. I google previewed it and this exactly what I'm after. I like the fact that this belongs to Patrick Moore's Practical Astronomy Series". This book seems fairly easy to understand, which is important as I'm learning.
Question about this book though: :question:
When I was Google previewed it, in section 5, he mentions Proxima Centauri to be the second nearest star. I thought it was the first? :shrug: And then I was blown away :scared2: when he said new information tells us that Proxima isn't part of the Centauri system as first thought - it is merely cruising past. :confuse3: Woah, learned something within the first 5 mts of previewing.

Craig, yep, it is cheaper to Wikki, hubby thinks I'm crazy buying books when I can Wikki everything, but gosh, at the end of the day, you just can't beat the info a book can give you and it's easy just to pick up and read it no matter where you are. Besides, it wouldn't be Astronomy if we couldn't throw money at it right?! :lol: So, yet another astro purchase!:help:.

[Suzy]

Oh, I just see that Shelley has got the same book at Amazon waiting in her basket! :D

[shelltree]

Plus another 7 or so books on all manner of astrophysics :D I'm gonna be so poor soon...but hopefully really smart!

[Suzy]

Welcome to the bottomless pit of Astronomy Shelley, where we have lots of astro toys but no money. :lol: Food is over-rated - Madonna lived on popcorn when she first moved to the big city, so who needs steak and veges after all. :lol: At least our brain cells will get nourished - especially yours with those seven (*gulp*) astro books! You'll be busy for a while!

[shelltree]

Hopefully I'll be so busy I won't notice my rumbling stomach :D I already have many books, all of which I want to be reading at the same time. I'll start with Lawrence Krauss and work my way up...

[Liz]

I think it an addiction ... buying astronomy books. :question:
I have bought soooo many in the last 6 months, due to the ease, and range of great books, that get delivered to your door by the smiling postie. ;)
I think I bought 7 last week from that betterbooks site, then didnt have enough money in my account when I got the groceries. :rolleyes: That was my own fault after 1 weeks holidays as well. ;)
I ecently bought that 'Turn Left at Orion' book, which I think is really good too.
I have bought a couple of star books of late ... but nothing too scientifically challenging that keeps Carl, Craig, Shelly and yourself ... excited. ;);)

[Suzy]

Oh, errr, :ashamed: doesn't matter answering that question, as the answer is obviously the Sun of course. :rolleyes: Trick statement that one. :screwy: Crikey, how embarrassing, oh well, that was my "doh" moment. Anyway, I shall go hide back in my hole now. :scared3: Think I deserve a bit of a poke for that one :lol:
Of course then again I could have just gone ahead and sneakily deleted that bit off my thread and not publicly humiliate myself... but what would the fun be in that :shrug: :P :lol:

[CraigS]

Hey, what's up with a little public humiliation ?? I seem to do it to myself all the time!! But there again .. I am only a Hamster … (Witten's Hamster, that is)!
:)
Man, all you guys … err gals … are terrific !!
Also great book salespeople !
Looks like I'll have to get a copy of "Astrophysics is Easy" to keep up with you.

Cheers & Rgds

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Well, Proxima is the closest star to us (outside of the Sun, of course). They're still not sure whether it's actually a member of the Alpha system or a separate star. Problem is measuring its space velocity relative to both Alpha and us. If it's in orbit about the other two stars, there will be a component of orbital angular momentum in addition to its space velocity that will say it's part of the system. Only thing is it's 13000AU from the other stars, which means its orbit is something like a million years or so, in length. Very long time and it hardly moves which means finding an orbit is hard. The only true way they're going to be able to tell is go there and measure its age from meteoric/asteroid debris in orbit about the star. Then go to Alpha and do the same thing. If they're close in age, then it's a safe bet they formed together.

[AdrianF]

Will be happy when I get my Hartungs book from the US. supposed to be delivered by late next week.

Adrian

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Anyway, talking about books....I have a list of 50 books I want to get. The cheapest is $22, the dearest is $340. If I didn't limit the price of the books, there's a couple in the $800-$1000 range that I want to get that I could've written down in my list as well:)

[Suzy]

Liz, I have you to blame for my book addiction seeing as you put me onto The Book Depository in the first place :poke: :lol:. I never really got into reading many books before, so you've actually done a good thing by getting me into reading, and though I'm now addicted, I need to thank you. :lol:
Yes, that "Turn Left at Orion" is a great reference book". That was actually my first astro book when I joined this forum. I also enjoy reading the greek mythology attached to the constellations in that book. I knew nothing about it before and was so horrified how violent it all is up there! And my shock/horror to discover that my star sign, Cancer, got squished by Orion's foot! :sadeyes: :lol: I enjoy that this book isn't complicated by other stuff and keeps it simple for what it is - how to find constellations and associated greek mythology.
I think you & I ought to form a book club! ;) :lol:

Craig, so what is Witten's Hampster all about anyway?
Good sales people eh? Maybe we might knock Oprah's Book Club out of the running after all! :question: And I think there's a good number of books sold that owe IIS some royalties too. :lol:

Carl, thank you, that was (as usual) a great read on how you explained Proxima Centauri. You explain things so well - I so enjoy reading your informative posts (Craig and you do a great job contributing knowledge to this forum) - I hope you will write a book one day. :)

By the way, I'd really like to see what a $1,000 astro book looks like/is about! Crikey! :eyepop:

Adrian, It's been a long wait for this book and am pleased for you that the time is finally near for delivery. What patience. :)

[Suzy]

Along with my placed order of "Astrophysics is Easy" at The Book Depository, I also ordered this book http://http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780521818032/The-Cambridge-Encyclopedia-of-Stars (http://http//www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780521818032/The-Cambridge-Encyclopedia-of-Stars) "The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Stars". Looks a very educational reference book to compliment the "Astrophysics is easy" book. I have just noticed that If I'd waited until today to buy it instead of last night, I would have saved myself $6.00 (doh!) - it is now further reduced down to $58.56.

Here is the description of it from The Book Depository:
This unique encyclopedia provides a fascinating and fully comprehensive description of stars and their natures and is filled with beautiful color images. The book begins by telling the story of astronomy, from ancient constellations and star names to the modern coordinate system. Further chapters explain magnitudes, distances, star motions and the Galaxy at large. Double stars, clusters and variables are introduced and once the different kinds of stars are in place, later chapters examine stellar evolution, beginning with the interstellar medium and star formation, proceeding to our Sun and its characteristics and then the ageing process of solar-type and high mass stars. The book ends by showing how this information can be combined into a grand synthesis. Detailed cross-referencing enables the reader to explore topics in depth and makes this an invaluable work both for beginners and those with a more advanced interest in stars and stellar evolution.

Looks great value- hardback and 338 pages, and it is after all a Cambridge book so I can't do too wrong I don't think. Are you reading this Liz? Another book for you maybe? :lol:

Oh okay, I admit it, I bought another book too on that same order. :D
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781554073160/Hubble titled "Hubble, Mirror on the Universe" (hardback, 192 pages). I saw this book at Borders Books on the weekend and I was very impressed with the gorgeous pics and information and had to have it.

[CraigS]

Ed Witten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_witten) … legend … my master !
Hamster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamster) .. cute rodents .. mischievous … always learning, always watching. Because Ed lives in the USA, they're called Hamsters .. not Guinea pigs … in the Hitch-Hiker's Guide … the mice ruled the world .. they're bigger here at IIS !.. Hamster-sized !!


I'll agree with that !!


I'd call it "How to make trouble .. without really trying" …

:)

Cheers

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Ed Witten = super brain, totally incomprehensible IQ:eyepop::bowdown::einstein:

Hamster = cute, furry ball of fluff:D:P

[CraigS]

Why, thank you, Carl !!!
:)

In a class of my own !!

Ed's no Hamster .. he doesn't fit the mould.
;)
Perhaps his IQ might rub off on his pets ?? (I live in hope !!).
:)

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Who knows, I may write a book....one day, but as for the title, this is more up Craig's street than mine:P......



:P:P

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The resemblance is only superficial:P:P

I wish his IQ rubbed off on everyone!!!!:):P

[shelltree]

:lol: I'd certainly buy it! You have a way with words :)

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Thank you:)

[CraigS]

It would be called: "The Holy Hand Grenade: Special Weapons and Tactics for use Against Pseudoscience" and it would be written under the pseudonym of "Cosmology's Rottweiler … Woof" !

It will be available through www.fishpond.com.au (because Carl has a major shareholdings there).

:P:P
:)

[Suzy]

:lol::lol:
You guys are so funny!

[M54]

Suzy,
I've read most of a book called "The Observers Guide to Stellar Evolution", by Mike Inglis. I had it out from the local astro clubs library, but didn't finish it before having to take it back. Will get it out again soon to finish it.
It was very understandable and it is for the observer, so after each chapter, it has a list of objects to observe according to the stage of their evolution.
A book I would definately buy if I had the spare cash.:)

[shelltree]

Well, the Australian dollar is doing swimmingly so I think this week's pay will be going towards my hefty book purchase! :) I'm excited!!

[Suzy]

:cool: I'm excited for you! Go get those books Shelley! :thumbsup:

[AdrianF]

The book arrived this morning :D and on the first day of my holidays aswell, couldn't be better timed. 7 weeks from purchase to delivery.

Adrian

[Suzy]

I'm very glad you got the book finally, Adrian!:jump2:

[AdrianF]

I was getting worried that I wasnt going to get the book. I ordered parts for my motorbike from the US and got them in a week. Book 5 weeks.

Adrian