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gary
30-07-2010, 01:10 AM
ABC has a story today by Stuart Gary about NEO 1999-RQ36








Story here including more about the Yarkovsky effect -

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2010/07/29/2967908.htm

wavelandscott
30-07-2010, 03:34 AM
Better keep an umbrella handy just in case!

Space weather can be a bear...

astroron
30-07-2010, 08:58 AM
Thanks Gary, I had read of the Yarkovski effect but that article explaines it easy enough to understand:thumbsup:

gary
30-07-2010, 01:12 PM
Hi Scott,

It would want to be an umbrella made of the best ripstop nylon.

According to the NASA Near Earth Object Program page (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a101955.html), 1999-RQ36 would
deliver an estimated impact energy of 2700 Megatons (i.e. 2.7 Gigatons)

Given that the largest thermonuclear device detonated to date produced 50 Megatons,
on the slim chance 1999-RQ36 rained down, it certainly would be one bad hair
day on Earth.

renormalised
30-07-2010, 02:19 PM
Yep, it'd blow a crater about 15-20kms across and flatten everything within a 100-400km radius, depending on the terrain. The destruction would be spread out over the greater portion of the US and into parts of Canada and Mexico. Mostly fires and such caused by hot debris raining back down from the upper atmosphere and Earth orbit.

gary
30-07-2010, 02:50 PM
Hi Carl,

Sounds like you are a believer in that lightning can strike twice in the same place.

With regards the specific impact site, that would probably be news to the good folk
of the US, Canada & Mexico. :lol:

Scott, better come back to the relative safety of Sydney!

renormalised
30-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Nah....just picked a target and sent it there:):P

Anyway, it's not quite exactly the same place...2500km apart!!

Zaps
30-07-2010, 05:46 PM
Earth Impact Effects Program (http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/) - courtesy Collins, Marcus and Melosh, University of Arizona.

BTW, I taught Hank Melosh darn near everything he knows about modeling cratering dynamics, which happens to be a lot less than he thinks! ;) :P

wavelandscott
30-07-2010, 11:11 PM
That sounds like a fine idea!

But, I'll bring a very sturdy umbrella with me just in case...

wavelandscott
30-07-2010, 11:13 PM
That sounds like a big kaboom to me...

Remarkably that is even a bit more powerful than the New Years Fireworks in Sydney!

renormalised
30-07-2010, 11:23 PM
The umbrella's for the ejecta thrown out by the impact:):P

higginsdj
02-08-2010, 12:31 PM
Got to love these 'predictions'. Yarkovsky affects everything but there are no models to predict the extent of the effect. We are only now in a position to measure the effect on a very small number of objects that have been observed over the last decade or more. The report may as well say there is sufficient orbital ambiguity in every NEO orbit that any one of them could collide with the earth outside the next 100 years.