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Dennis
22-07-2010, 11:01 AM
Hello,

I am delighted to have recorded the motion trail of the magnitude 18.72 moon Nereid, over a period of 3 hours, straddling the midnight hours of 17th/18th July 2010. Until 2002, Nereid was the outermost known moon of Neptune from its discovery by G. Kuiper in 1949.

Nereid details
The mean radius of Nereid is 170km and it has a mean magnitude of 18.72. The orbital period of Nereid is listed as 360.13619 days. Nereid was too far away from Voyager 2 to be properly imaged when the spacecraft visited the Neptune system in 1989. Photos sent back show only its highly irregular shape, and no surface features could be seen at the resolution available. The parent planet Neptune (diameter 49,528.0 km) lies some 2.796 billion miles from the Sun and has a rather chilly surface temperature of -209°C.

Finding Nereid
Using the NASA (JPL) Horizons system (http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi#top), I generated an ephemeris for the 17/18th July 2010 at 1 hour intervals and then slewed the ‘scope to the coordinates generated by Horizons. Neptune can currently be found in the constellation of Aquarius.

The data has been extensively edited to produce a smoother looking animation as follows:

The 9x20 min sub-frames were combined to improve the image quality of the background and I removed the grossly over exposed disc of Neptune using the “Content Aware Fill” function in CS5.
An RGB disc of Neptune was generated from a separate set of 4 sec exposures through RGB filters and then blended in with the positional data in each of the 9x20 min sub frames.
The composite sub-frames were then blended in with the background field to generate 9 files for the animation. Some positional integrity (± 1 arcsec) and brightness accuracy will have been compromised through these techniques.

Notes:

The animation frames are a series of 800x600 crops from the original 1600x1200 pixel frames.
In the animation, Nereid is shown (dimly) approx 2 cms to the left of frame centre.
Using CCDStack, the central brightness of the Nereid “clump” was typically some 300-500 ADU above the average background of around 16,900 ADU.
Using CS5, I zoomed in on the footprint of Nereid and it appeared as a central brighter pixel within an array of 9 pixels, with the outer 8 being dimmer.
Some thin, high cloud affected a few of the frames.
I have included a single frame showing the motion of Nereid, but with a stationary Neptune disc rather than a trailed disc.


Imaging details:
Brisbane, QLD, Australia
17th July 11:24pm to 18th July 2:11am AEST

Celestron C9.25 F10 SCT with x0.63 Reducer.
SBIG ST2000, 9x20 min exposures.
Image scale 1.03 arcsec/pixel

Thanks for looking!

Dennis

DavidU
22-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Your at it again ! Yet another fine capture Dennis, amazing work.:thumbsup:

SkyViking
22-07-2010, 11:15 AM
Stunning result Dennis, congratulations :D Nice and comprehensive write up too. You are really giving that ST2000 a workout!

Is Nereid showing orbital movement relative to Neptune in these frames? I ask because Triton seems to be static with respect to Neptune so I wouldn't expect Nereid to move either during the same time, but Nereid and Neptune/Triton seem to follow slightly different paths in the animation?

Ric
22-07-2010, 12:43 PM
Excellent animation Dennis.

I could watch that for hours but the boss might get upset LOL.

Scorpius51
22-07-2010, 01:05 PM
Well done Dennis! That is great work.

Cheers
John

Matt Wastell
22-07-2010, 05:33 PM
Super job Dennis - a real treat!

gary
22-07-2010, 08:01 PM
Hi Dennis,

Wow! That's really impressive. Great to see an object that most
of us have never seen before. Thank you and well done!

Best Regards

Gary

sheeny
22-07-2010, 08:50 PM
Wow plus!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbs up::thumbsup:

Dennis...

You leave me in awe!:bowdown:

Al.

Quark
22-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Super job Dennis, you are the man.

Thanks for sharing these views of the denizens of the outer Solar System.

Regards
Trevor

Starkler
22-07-2010, 09:40 PM
Dennis I love your work on the outer planets as you push the boundaries of whats achievable for amateurs. :thumbsup:

Just a tiny observation. Usually when I see an animation there is normally some flickering or variance with time of other static objects. The fact you have made those objects totally static makes the presentation seem synthetic and clinical rather than real.

Just my impression and I hope you take the small criticism in the spirit intended.

Dennis
31-07-2010, 07:17 AM
Thank you everyone for your comments and feedback, they are much appreciated. Been away on an at times somewhat wet holiday :( on Moreton Island, so apologies for the late reply!

@Rolf – I’ll revisit my processing steps in light of your comments and see if I have introduced any anomalies here.

@ Geoff – with animations I noticed that variations of “constant” data such as the sky background and fixed stars tends to blow out the file size, so I have been experimenting with standardising the background and then adding the moving objects as Layers in Photoshop and I agree – it does look quite artificial compared to seeing the variations across the original real sky frames.

Cheers

Dennis

astroron
31-07-2010, 08:05 AM
Always in awe of your work Dennis, it is great to see how well you capture these faint wondering bits of Rock:thumbsup:

RobF
31-07-2010, 09:19 AM
Great going Dennis. You've made it look deceptively easy again, when in reality I'm sure data collection and image processing was a very exacting process. Congrats!

Clayton
31-07-2010, 10:33 AM
Simply Amazing:eyepop:
I know how much work there is in a simple animation, but this is something else:thumbsup::thumbsup:

RB
31-07-2010, 10:40 AM
Sensational work Dennis !

firstlight
31-07-2010, 11:42 AM
Great work Dennis,

What everyone else has said... Taken it up another level.

CometGuy
31-07-2010, 12:59 PM
Hi Dennis,

Really enjoy your images of unique different targets, this one included.

Have you tried splitting Pluto and Charon?

Terry

renormalised
31-07-2010, 12:59 PM
Beautiful bit of imaging and imaginative presentation, Dennis. Good work:):)

Doodles23
03-08-2010, 02:13 AM
Nothing short of spectacular. Finding Neptune enthusiasts to appreciate is not easy!

iceman
03-08-2010, 05:08 AM
Stunning work Dennis, I love it when you put your mind to something!

Kal
03-08-2010, 11:55 AM
What a beautifully presented animation! Wonderful!

Dennis
11-08-2010, 02:41 PM
Hello,

Here is a re-work of my Neptune, Triton and Nereid animation. This time I blended the raw files 50% with a combined background stack in an effort to make the animation appear more natural, although I had to discard the colour data by converting the frames to B&W to keep the file size down.

I locally reduced the brightness of Neptune/Triton so the separation between the two bodies was better revealed. I also locally brightened Nereid in each frame to lift it more above the sky background. Nereid is the tiny (moving) dot just above the centre of the frame.

Brrr…its cold that far out there in our solar system!:)

Cheers

Dennis

bird
12-08-2010, 08:21 PM
Excellent work Dennis. As an alternative to animated gif you could try a javascript animation of the jpeg frames... You'll need somewhere to host the files and the html file with embedded javascript but it does get around size and quality limits...

cheers, Bird

alexch
13-08-2010, 04:24 PM
Superb effort. Thanks for sharing!

SkyViking
19-08-2010, 06:40 PM
Wonderful work Dennis, yeah the 2nd version does look more 'authentic' so to speak :) I like it a lot.