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erick
31-05-2010, 10:50 PM
Like listening to pulsars?

Try these 16 from 47 Tuc:-

http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/research/pulsar/Education/Sounds/47tuc1-8000.wav

They sure are amazing objects. Absolutely boggles the mind to imagine the forces at work in a millisecond pulsar.

DavidU
31-05-2010, 11:03 PM
Wouldn't it be a shame if we were the only life forms in the universe to marvel at such things.
Thanks for sharing.

Suzy
31-05-2010, 11:58 PM
Thankyou Eric. I've never heard a pulsar before! :D

renormalised
01-06-2010, 12:09 AM
Yep, they're amazing little critters:)

Starkler
01-06-2010, 12:28 AM
For a moment I thought it was going to be about this guy (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/member.php?u=65) :scared:

Paddy
01-06-2010, 10:00 AM
That's what I wondered too!

I always thought that there was something particularly hypnotic about 47 Tuc (the GC, that is)

erick
01-06-2010, 10:36 AM
A range of rotation frequencies on their site:-

http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/research/pulsar/Education/Sounds/

"This is the second fastest known pulsar, rotating with a period of 0.00155780644887275 seconds, or about 642 times a second. The surface of this star is moving at about 1/7 of the velocity of light and illustrates the enormous gravitational forces which prevent it flying apart due to the immense centrifugal forces. The fastest-rotating pulsar is PSR J1748-2446ad, which rotates about 10% faster at 716 times a second."

Try to land there!:eyepop:

Jarvamundo
01-06-2010, 05:30 PM
Thanks Eric, great sounds there...

Not sure how long the rotation model will last though... got the feeling there are far simpler explanations... PSR J1748-2446ad = 43,000 RPM all sorts of strange matter inventions are required to keep 'spinning' at .25C.

Pulsars are found 'spinning up' and 'spinning down' and having short period frequency glitches, outbursts, all no place in a g-spin prediction.

Interesting objects...

Robh
01-06-2010, 07:06 PM
Sounds like a good soundtrack for a Sci-Fi movie.

The upper limit for the diameter of Terzan 5ad (PSR J1748-2446ad) is thought to be 30 kms.
More here ...
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/3311021.html?page=1&c=y

Regards, Rob.

Jarvamundo
01-06-2010, 08:00 PM
Q: why is it?
A: cos it can't be more

These are theoretical gravity limits, not measurements... and relies groupings of matter way beyond anything empirically stable.

After something a bit simpler, with some empirics? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJhrvS2IGI

sound similar?

All you'd need would be for the pulsars of 47tuc to be binary pairs...

http://www.naic.edu/~pfreire//47Tuc/


just an idea ;-)
spin ups, spin downs, fluctuations, outbursts, etc... all expected.... no need for 25% of C rotation or this other fantastic 'strange matter' that's never been seen.

renormalised
01-06-2010, 08:50 PM
Problem is, Alex, how are you going to measure the gravitational field around the pulsar unless there's something in orbit about it. Or its surface gravity unless you have instruments sitting on its surface. Good luck with that!!!.

Your idea might be an explanation in some cases (only if the pulsars are close enough together to generate an enormous flux tube between their respective poles), but not in every case. However, it could just as easily be high energy electrons being whipped around along with the flux tubes within the magnetic fields of the pulsars...basically generating radio waves.

Plus, you have to remember, millisecond pulsars are part of binary systems, but the primary of those systems is either a giant star that's filled it's Roche Lobe and is spilling gas onto the pulsar, or a main sequence star in a very tight orbit around the pulsar and is being pulled apart. Most of those slower pulsars are loners. Most binary pulsars are in exceedingly tight orbits and have very quick orbital motions, but are themselves not necessarily in the millisecond category.

Jarvamundo
01-06-2010, 11:08 PM
Glad you agree on the empirical gap here... We have established how this "30km radius" figure has come about.


Certainly not my idea... just pointing out electrical discharges are really quite easy to replicate in labs...
Don Scott @ NASA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBc6Owps9pY (8 minutes 30)
http://public.lanl.gov/alp/plasma/downloads/HealyPeratt1995.pdf

is this a complete model? well no, but there are some striking empirical results that could help avoid 'strange' inventions.



I have difficulties with inventing new states of hypothetical matter, and squeezing 1.3 solar masses into a 30km object, and spinning it at 25% of C!

It's even more difficult to swallow this unimaginably heavy, ridiculously fast object will need to 'spin up', 'spin down', 'outbursts', 'frequency glitches'....

Some empirical discharge and reflected transmission experiments, as performed by Peratt above, seem.... well... a bit more real to me, than super-duper strange stuff...

Just ideas that could help, in part.... no need to dismiss

icytailmark
11-06-2010, 01:34 AM
its sounds like someone pressing keys on a piano

Astro78
14-06-2010, 09:51 PM
well that was a fantastic first. how did they convert to sound?

Sounded creepy, or perhaps 'twas just the candle blowing out during the loud part