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h0ughy
11-05-2010, 01:05 PM
A woefull result after 3 nights of imaging this is a poor 7 hours worth of photons of Centaurus A:sad:. I cant push it anymore as the light pollution has simply made the outer area extinct of data. A DSLR simply has its limits! I was going to image this for longer but after discussions with the Centaurus DEMIGOD i realsied that this will be an unachievable goal from the Doghouse unless there is a total power outage in newcastle at night for 3 days. Now whats the likelyhood of that?:confused2:
this is a crop form the full image size as i had noise from the AMP glow to remove as well. :(
Its horrible, nasty and probably could be processed slightly better, but without divine intervention this is as good as i can get my bucket of photons i have collected!:help:
Quite simply - light pollution sucks:P
renormalised
11-05-2010, 01:25 PM
It does have quite a bit of detail but that background is noisy, and that's understandable...given the conditions and limitations you've had to put up with. Good shot, anyway:)
multiweb
11-05-2010, 01:55 PM
It does but you can beat it. More exposures will increase your SNR and eventually you'll smooth everything out. It's a numbers game. Not impossible. :thumbsup:
tornado33
11-05-2010, 02:39 PM
The extended halo of stars is just starting to show, so pretty good for a city location.
Scott
gregbradley
11-05-2010, 04:11 PM
Its not too bad.
Galaxies are a tough target for light polluted areas though.
Greg.
h0ughy
11-05-2010, 04:26 PM
thanks – but it is far from what I was hoping to achieve
So your saying keep at it and see if I can improve it?
Mate – your dreaming!! You must have eagle eyes ;) Scott it becomes an issue now of finding what works and what the limit is for the setup, thanks anyway for the hope?
I don’t Steve, you think if anyone said to you - hey I have done 7 hours worth of imaging you would assume that you would see a well defined and smooth image. I did push it hard and did say that – I will have to repro, but might hold off on that until I get more data?
Your too kind Greg. I am now realising how tough they are - well for that matter anything. Gees if I get really touched badly I could end up like Fred ;)
Hagar
11-05-2010, 05:06 PM
Nice image David with lots of detail but even with LP I would have expected a bit more for 7 hours worth. This imaging game can be a mongrel where loads of exposure doesn't always mean the best image. To many variables.
Still it's a nice image David but I can understand your disappointment.
Keep at it Mate.
multiweb
11-05-2010, 05:37 PM
Hell yeah. You'll probably put double or triple the integration time but the more you stack the better it'll get. :thumbsup: There's nothing you can't do from a light polluted sky that you can do at a dark site unless the sky count is higher than the the object you are trying to take a picture of.
Paul Haese
11-05-2010, 06:07 PM
Every 16 or so frames you gain an image brightness increase, noise disappears and eventually a great image. This can be very tough through light pollution. Not prepared to deal this anymore myself. A good image all the same. Maybe a little soft on the focus perhaps.
strongmanmike
11-05-2010, 10:20 PM
ZERO...? :(
Still a great effort from your new observatory
Save such projects for dark skies where the seemingly impossible can become a reality.
Michentaurus A :P
DavidTrap
11-05-2010, 10:35 PM
I just hope my efforts will resemble your's David...
DT
h0ughy
11-05-2010, 11:10 PM
thanks - youre quite correct far too many variables
ok i am currently doing another 2 hours worth at iso 800, if i am lucky i will try to squeeze in another hour on that - it is getting windy?
no Paul the focus was spot on - the seeing was the variable this time - was some thin cloud methinks
Michentaurus the great, please accept my humble apology but i simply cant let go of this
well i am one above zero so you should blitz it:lol:
strongmanmike
11-05-2010, 11:38 PM
Fair enough, dog and a bone huh? :thumbsup:
h0ughy
11-05-2010, 11:40 PM
yes lol.
Tom Davis
12-05-2010, 07:49 AM
Great shot still!! Much better than I've ever done on this object.
Tom
multiweb
12-05-2010, 08:03 AM
Agreed. Actually had a look at it again this morning and it's a top shot regardless of where it was taken. :thumbsup: More data will only make it better but it's already very good as it is. Details are sharp in the lane and you start seeing the oval halo around the galaxy. It think the whole gig's there.
marc4darkskies
12-05-2010, 08:19 AM
WHAT are you on about David!!!! :shrug: Not perfect - sure, but a perfectly resepectable and worthy image!! :thumbsup: You should be proud of your effort. Nice colour, good detail given conditions and equipment, and nice round stars. Just go out and get yourself a mono CCD camera and you'll be laughing! :)
Cheers, Marcus
h0ughy
12-05-2010, 01:57 PM
well i got just a tad more data last night and added it and badly processed it. so i got the count now to 11h and 11min. as you can see from the screen transfer function pushing it there is a significant difference, but it is way over processed. I think one day i may get there :rofl: but that day is way way way off;)
multiweb
12-05-2010, 06:09 PM
Very good - getting there. Not that far off now. :thumbsup:
Bassnut
12-05-2010, 08:09 PM
Youve gotten pretty deep there with the Halo size without much noise, top work David, and the detail is pretty good too.
Gaud, I just saw the repros, no Dave, not working, the original is better.
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