Have they really found the Ark?

[DavidU]

Interesting photo's
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/glance/1045584/noahs-ark-discovery-99-5-percent-sure

[Ric]

Definitely interesting Dave,

I'll wait for the independent team of scientists to verify the find though.

[cfranks]

Probably 'find' all the skeletons of all the animals! One chunk of wood does not an Ark make. :rolleyes:

[multiweb]

Now the real question is how did he reverse park the damn thing in that small cave? Divine intervention or just pure skills? :confuse3:

[renormalised]

No...this is just another one of those religious organisations trying to justify their beliefs any way they can by claiming anything they find to be the real thing. It's probably nothing more than an old log cabin. As for their C dating saying it's 4800 years old, where's the results. Have the results been verified, who did the dating??

And that's just for starters!!!!.

Makes you wonder about the gullibility of people.

[Steffen]

They're charlatans, carbon dating is heresy! It's generally at odds with the well-documented fact that the Earth is 6000 years old :screwy:

Cheers
Steffen.

[avandonk]

I still do not know what made nearly all the marsupials head for Australia when they got off the Ark. Same goes for all the penguins that went only to Antarctica and not the Arctic which is just a tad closer.

Bert

[Robh]

Have they found it again!

Regards, Rob.

[jjjnettie]

Don't get me started on penguins Bert.
This is the second time they've visited me today.:rolleyes:

Getting ready for lock down on this thread.;)

[toryglen-boy]

evolution.

But then again, this thread will be locked down, because its slightly risque, and a topic for debate that could stir some religious people, nevermind interesting.

I dont believe in the ark, or religion for that matter, it hasnt worked for over 2000 years, and it wont work yet, that said, live and let live, and each to thier own...

now i am rambling.

;)

[Esseth]

Yeah i have noticed the local news sites (ninemsn and news.com.au) have started heading down a bad bad road of pseudoscience... i have seen several religious/sceince reports, ufo reports and even the occasional conspiracy theory lately

[AstralTraveller]

I note with interest that "The group has ruled out an established human settlement on the grounds that one had never been found above 3,500 metres in the vicinity." So they have a wooden structure at 4000m. It could either be the first settlement found above 3500m or it could be the ark. So they whip out Occam's Razor and decide the ark is the simpler explaination!! :lol:

[OzRob]

We are not talking about a little bit of water either. The average depth of the oceans is a little under 4000m. This structure was found at 4000m above current sea level. Apparently we have lost 50% of our water in 4800 years!!!....:screwy:

[renormalised]

Precisely...because Bishop Ussher said so:):P

[renormalised]

Marsupial: "Australia....yep, sounds like a great holiday!!":):P

Penguin: Just got lost.

[Baddad]

Hi Rob, :)
If your 50% is just an approximation then its near enough. A little thought and the figure is something more that 50% and the fact we have therefore lost 4klms of the Earth's surface consisting of water.

Makes me wonder why all the spectacular events only happened in the distant past in written history. Nothing ever happens around here any more.:P:lol:

Cheers Marty

[AstralTraveller]

I forget the exact figure but if we melted all the world's ice sea level would only rise 60-70m. So that isn't where it's gone.

[dugnsuz]

Noah's Ark IMO is probably a story made myth - made biblical reality all the way through oral tradition to print.

Perhaps there was a person who envisaged some catastrophic event through some proximity to it (Vesuvians take note! Global Warming people...hello!)
In this case ' a flood' - so he dedides to save some livestock, his livestock,builds a small vessel to withstand the impending disaster and manages to survive it. Time and mythology start to blend into a much expanded version of the event.
Millenia later Chinese evangelists find the vessel.
Yeah they may indeed have found Noah's Ark - but that doesn't make the biblical story true.

[Lee]

They've found a wooden structure up a mountain, isn't it more likely to be a shed?

[DavidU]

:lol::lol::lol:

[dugnsuz]

Probably - but I still love that we're discussing this stuff in 2010!
Doug

[TrevorW]

"God what's a cubit"

[Baddad]

Hi Doug, :)



:lol: Yes, that I deem as an acceptable explanation. :thumbsup:I thought of another one:
Ref: No residences above 3500M. That's fair enough, probably frozen all year round. ;)
Being at 4000M it would stand to reason it was frozen storage. Why else would anyone require a structure above the "permanent snowline"?;)

Many civilisations place food into long term storage. In the tropics bananas are dried and powdered and placed into the ground by various native communities.

That's my 2 bob's worth:)

Cheers Marty

[rat156]

I know where all that is, in the air above Melbourne:(:(:(:(

[mswhin63]

Wouldn't be surprised the boat was built where it was found. Did it ever see water other than the ice it is frozen in.

[bloodhound31]

Come on you lovely people! Knock it off eh? I have been booted off forums for less. I am not allowed to spout my Christian beliefs here and rubbish big bang and evolution...

Just saying is all.

Forums rules #3 on posting topics (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=7856)

[DiamondDust]

Yep, it's a shed! Ring chanel 9.:thumbsup:

[Jen]

:lol::lol:

[dugnsuz]

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I'd be very happy for the "debate" to become less one side scientifically if reports like this turned out to have some validity Baz.
As stated above - I'm unhappy that we're fearful of debating religious v's scientific issues - I reckon the truth is out there and is open to discussion. The truth should never offend!
Unfortunately getting to the truth often does!!!!
Doug:thumbsup:

[adman]

:question: withdrew my comment after reading forum rules....

[bloodhound31]

I don't mind healthy discussion on these issues either Doug, but I am not going to do it here. The forum strictly says not to. Time and time again this gets ignored.

It looks it is allowed to go on anyway, regardless of the rules. So I will just go back to photography subjects.:thumbsup:

Later.:D

[leon]

Well said Adam, one dose wonder.

Leon

[kinetic]

We all fall short Baz,
It's so easy to take a cheap shot at religion.
Apologies for my lack of respect.:thumbsup:

Steve

[bloodhound31]

All is forgiven my son..:thumbsup:

[[1ponders]]

With those notes of good air, I'll happily lock this thread.

[AstralTraveller]

Not a bad story but not what happened. I can't say any more just yet. :thumbsup:

Apropos whether this is a atheist vs jew/christian/muslim debate I would conjecture that many in the latter category won't be convinced that this 'discovery' is genuine either.

[GrahamL]

Indeed Baz .. the Third enscribement on the great IIS tablet clearly

states.




No need to keep walking this road any more is there ?
Everyone has and are entitled to there own views on these topics
whatever they may be . :)

[mswhin63]

This story has been a factual find and with that is open for debate. I would have quite happy for the report to say they found a 4800 year old shed or boat, but the finders stipulate with 99.9% accuracy that it is the ark (isn't this the third time).

Good find and for science buffs there will be a logical explanation.

I was gonna say something else but would close the thread immediately :question: