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astroron
27-04-2010, 01:00 AM
The site for the ESO 42 meter has been chosen in Chile:thumbsup:
http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1018/

M54
27-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Thanks Ron.

As I said on the alternate thread posted by Paul K, Wow! Extra solar planets observed directly!

How many years do you think it will be before it's completed?

astroron
27-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Hi Molly, I don't know :( but I have sent ESO an email to find out:question:
Cheers:thumbsup:

bird
27-04-2010, 03:42 PM
In the press release linked to above it says that it will start operations in 2018.

cheers, Bird

multiweb
27-04-2010, 05:38 PM
Viewing rocky planets outside our solar system? That's exciting. You guys (planetary gurus) think it's possible with local seeing?

adman
27-04-2010, 06:07 PM
Reading the media blurb - it says that it will have better resolution than Hubble thanks to its adaptive optics....the fact that you can make adaptive optics for a 42m scope just blows my mind:eyepop:....

Satchmo
27-04-2010, 06:09 PM
Monolithic secondary mirror 6 meter in diameter :eyepop:

multiweb
27-04-2010, 06:42 PM
Yeah I know how that feels. Looking at Lachlan's 30'" SDM secondary (5.5") the other night at Parramatta I thought "hey! that looks like my newt primary!" :lol:

renormalised
28-04-2010, 02:49 PM
'bout time that put me obs up....told them to git me the pier installed and ready!!!:):P

rogerg
28-04-2010, 03:03 PM
I think with adaptive optics they usually distort the secondary not the primary, so it's the 6m they'd be distorting here not the 42m. Still quite a challenge though, I bet.

SkyViking
28-04-2010, 09:20 PM
Actually it's the primary, at least thats what they do at VLT. But given that E-ELT's secondary is similar in size to VLT's primary then it's probably a good bet that they will apply AO to the secondary in this case. Then on the other hand it might be easier to physically distort a mirror with a larger surface - the required accuracy must be less and they can put more actuators under a larger mirror. I'm just guessing though...

I took these photos at VLT a couple of years ago. Notice how the primary is full of actuators on the back side, I thought it looked very cool :D
Also notice how dusty that mirror is! The reflection looks rather dull, it must have been right before its yearly resurfacing.

astroron
28-04-2010, 09:33 PM
Received a reply from ESO, they hope to have construction go ahead at the end of the year but that is not definate
They did not give me an approximate first light date:(

adman
28-04-2010, 09:56 PM
from the media blurb:

Five-mirror design
1 The 42-metre primary mirror collects light from the night sky and reflects it to a smaller mirror located above it.
2 The 6-metre secondary mirror reflects light back down to a still smaller mirror nestled in the primary mirror.
3 The third mirror relays light to an adaptive flat mirror directly above.
4 The adaptive mirror adjusts its shape a thousand times
a second to correct for distortions caused by atmospheric turbulence.
5 A fifth mirror, mounted on a fast-moving stage, stabilises the image and sends the light to cameras and other instruments on the stationary platform

and...

The main mirror will consist of almost 1000 hexagonal segments, each 1.4 metres across. The gain is substantial: the E-ELT will gather 15 times more light than the largest optical telescopes operating today.

not to mention...(highlighting is mine)

With its 42-metre diameter, the E-ELT will gather 15 times more light than the largest optical telescopes operating today. It will also provide images 15 times sharper than those from the Hubble Space Telescope. The E-ELT performances are thus orders of magnitude better than the currently existing facilities.

Can't wait to see those....

bmitchell82
28-04-2010, 10:26 PM
I was planning to build one of them in my back yard. unfortunately the olds said they didn't want it there :( :D that is one big beasty piece of kit