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dannat
02-04-2010, 01:17 PM
If i were to put a smaller secondary into a 12" newt what are the disadvantages?
pgc hunter
02-04-2010, 03:07 PM
As long as you can see the entire primary in the secondary at the focal plane, you'll be right. But if you can't, the scope is effectively working at a smaller aperture as the secondary doesn't capture the entire light cone of the primary.
What are you hoping to gain?
By my calculations, the width of the light cone from a 12" f/5 scope when it reaches the secondary is about 63mm. What size is your secondary mirror? A 70mm secondary allows 3.5mm of play either side due to imperfect allignment. By reducing the secondary obstruction from 70mm to 63mm, the light gain is only 1% due to areas being relatively smaller at the centre of the primary mirror.
A 63mm secondary is most likely going to spill the light off edge and therefore lose more than was gained by the smaller diameter of its obstruction.
Regards, Rob.
Starkler
02-04-2010, 03:13 PM
Yep. the secondary needs to be large enough to catch the entire light cone from the primary, and then a little bit more to maintain illumination off axis.
This is far more critical in an astrograph than a visual scope.
dannat
02-04-2010, 03:23 PM
yes its just for visual - i figure losing a little bit of light for better contrast is a good trade off
Starkler
02-04-2010, 03:54 PM
Have a look at this (http://legault.perso.sfr.fr/obstruction.html) and see if you reckon its worth it. Scroll down the page for some sample images.
Personally unless you are building the scope to be a planetary special, i wouldnt bother changing out for a reduced size unless its a lot over 25%.
You will get far better gains paying close attention to collimation and thermal controls.
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