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astrospotter
22-03-2010, 09:27 AM
Just got back from 6 nights at Arkaroola Resort in Southern Australia where the most generous owner, Doug Sprigg, offered access to both his 14" SCT on EQ mount as well as a nice 12" dob that frankly I enjoyed more due to my mostly big-Dob background. I enjoy the crisp non-mirrored view of a nicely collimated Dob so as to make finding objects from a chart an easy task. By day the area is also amazing but this report will focus on the night sky.

In short: This northern astro-guy was absolutely blown away by the south skies.

After a few months of intense study and chart-prep so every minute under the stars would count I had the time of my life crammed into 5 highly useful nights with 2 of these having clouds fully clearing around 11 or 12 and three of which were amazing from dusk till 4am.

Special thanks to a few IceInSpace guys who helped with my prep-work by posts they had made to IceInSpace including the fabulous 'Bambos 600' list by John Bambury, ausastronomer, and links to other real good photos of SMC and LMC.

My background included just under 3000 observations so I was ready for any object tracking and used entirely manual find for all observations even though one of the scopes had full goto. I find the hunt is part of the fun and most of the objects I was seeking were bright enough in a 12" to be easy finds after a quick telrad find. Only a few required detailed star-hops of around 3 degrees or less.

After arrival in Australia we drove to Port Augusta and that 1st night I drove back south about 30km to Horrock's Pass off of Main North road that we had just come down earlier in the night because I knew it was very dark up there and above the vapor lower down. There was a great lot for astronomy there but at the time I only had my IS binoculars. I bet some of you go out there if near Port Augusta? I sat out there and for the first time saw the full sky views and refreshed my until then only book-study constellation knowledge. Looked at quite a few bino-objects including the great clusters of 2516, IC2391, 3114, Ic2602 and 3532 and just loving it. Southern Cross catches one's eye easily well up high and the false cross as well make excellent markers. Dorado leading along to the HUGE LMC, the pot of gold. LMC in 15x60 binoculars was over the 4.5degree field of view with Tarantula nebula small but defined. Down even lower the SMC also stands out naked eye although dimmer and binoculars reviels the brighter clusters but the charm here was Tuc 47. Checked out the dark doodad and coal sack and elaborate dark areas south of coal sack. This was only about 90 minutes but completely enjoyable. Exhaused I headed to the motel in anticipation of my real observing yet to come.

Drove up to Arkaroola from Port Augusta and got to the site in enough time to be able to observe starting out right on the very 1st night I was there at Arkaroola (March 13).

Highlights included of course Eta Carinae area including on the NW 3324, 3293, 3247, 3199 and on the east including 3532, 3572 and 3576 and 3603. IMHO Ngc3324 was a nice nebula but the likeness to Gabriela Mistral is a bit of a stretch although I saw it upside down so maybe if she were hanging upside down in her famous picture I would have agreed (lol).

As far as the Eta Carinae wide field nebula, I could fit much of of this into my 35mm PanOptic in this 12" f/5 scope so to see it all required Canon 15x60 IS binoculars (also wonderful view). The contrast of the huge dark lane 'V' with the clusters and extended wispy nebulous regions will be burned into my brain forever as a wonderful sight. I could easily have spent many more hours exploring just that huge nebula but had to move on. I did re-visit the area several times over the nights I was out.

Eta Carinae and it's homungulus nebula was the most difficult and yet the most wonderful sight of that nebulous area. It required that extreme careful collimation combined with meridian viewing and extreme steady seeing yields this amazing object FAR better than I had hoped to have seen. I came down there thinking I would not be able to see the 2 lobes and the disk protrusion but because they are so bright a 12" at 389x in 5mm Nagler in this 12" BinTel dob that I believe was perhaps the same make as the Orion SkyQuest or maybe XT12. It has a real nice mirror. The edges of the lobes were distinct and crisp, far better than I felt I would have been able to have seen. The dark area surrounding the nebula added to the contrast with a couple tiny stars just to the north as the nebula picks up once again adding a touch of class. The one thing I had meant to do was look for 1 or 2 of the more obvious Bok Modules and to look at the Herbig-Haro object but there will be another day.

The mondo-globs of Tuc 47 and Omega Cen were notes 'side by side' and many northern views of normally washed out Omega Cen were put to rest by the stunning overhead Omega Cen glob from Arkaroola. One cannot help but then compare/contrast with Tuc 47 which was highly resolvable and wonderful in it's own way due to the ever so gradual fade from the concentrated core on out to the limits fine stars. I prefer Omega Cen but that is a matter of religion and understand that to each their own as both are amazing.

Naturally this south-noob was eager to spend TONS of time in the LMC after picking up 37 or so objects in the SMC where the most fun was the long arch of objects 330, 346, 371, 395 and a very dim final but large nebulous object at the far eastern end of this long arch. Of course Ngc362 and some other famous smaller objects were all in the mix.

What can one say about the LMC? In a word: WOW! As part of my prep work I had been searching for a hit-list for LMC and was enjoying that fine dwarf in a great way. This 'object' was re-visited several nights and my total 'identified' object count only got up to around 80-90 but I loved the groups in assorted areas. I will not list all but the main areas where I will list only 1 object were of course Tarantula nebula and objects south with the very busy 2083 area then great star cloud 2048 and glob only to stop at what we are calling 'the grapes' with 2065 and 2058 for a total of around 7 clusters in one field. Farther north were the arch of groups leading east from 1934 area to the 1955, 2014, and a favorite of 2032 (Dragons Head which a local observer here had called 'the teeth' because of how it looks like many teeth in a small arch). To the West of 2070 were the 1910 real nice area that included 1903 and 1916. One really kool area was the area with Ngc1773 which I am a little confused if this or a different object is really the 'Bean Nebula'. Perhaps the name is used twice with this LMC area being the 'bean' within the LMC. At any rate, a real nice area. If you have never seen yet the gorgous NASA mosaic of the LMC done by over 1000 high resolution shots, search for LMC along with NOAO along with mosaic and it will take you right too it in assorted resolutions. Don't know if links work in this post but here goes:
http://www.noao.edu/image_gallery/html/im0994.html

Was able to pick up all Caldwell objects with numbers 80 and above to complete that set of observations and also all Southern Skies Astronomical League objects. I bet I have missed 1 or two Southern Sky Astronomical League objects and if so DRAT! But I will be back someday. A few of the Caldwells I just had to say 'WTF' and have no idea why they would be on ANYBODY's favorite 100 list except perhaps they have some sort of historical significance (which in my book does not make them any nicer than they are visually but alas, I digress).

Seeing was just about always mighty fine and transparency mostly great, a few times good and many times excellent depending on the night and the time. NELM was at zenith 6.8 or better (my eyes are not perfect but are about average from folks I have talked with in terms of NELM numbers). No finish triangle, just known stars in Corvus close to Zeneth where they are visible averted for over 60% of the time. Darkness on the worse night was 21.5 Mag/ArcSecSq and generally 21.7 or better at zenith in areas off of the bright milky way. Very late around 4am a direct point at center of the galaxy would yield 20.0 !!! My SQM meter is the very directional one so it is highly weighted in the center 15 degree of it's view so this sort of comparison can be fun to try.

A final treat was from my window seat I would see out my window lower Centaurus, Crux,

Now I have to transcribe my 300 or so observations from recordings I make in the field (saves time for me in field). This will be a long process but is a way to re-live the experience as well.

Thank you IceInSpace for allowing us northern astro-geeks to be on the IceInSpace community forums.

Clear Skies,
Mark Johnston
www.astrospotter.com (my little site)

erick
22-03-2010, 09:49 AM
Yes, we expect no less :D Glad you had a fantastic time!

astrospotter
22-03-2010, 10:23 AM
I see now a separate observing reports section.
Sorry for not posting to that location on this thread.
astrospotter

astroron
22-03-2010, 11:12 AM
:hi:Mark I am glad you enjoyed your trip down south, come back again soon.
Great report :thumbsup:

Rob_K
22-03-2010, 12:19 PM
Excellent report Mark, glad you had such a great time! :thumbsup:

Cheers -

ngcles
22-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Hi Mark,

Great report mate -- sounds like you had a wonderful tme.

The Flinders Ranges was a candidate site for the Anglo-Australian Telescope back in the 60-70's and I think only lost because it is so remote and at lesser altitude than Siding Spring Mountain at Coonabarabran.

Unfortunately, the next time you look at M13 from home you will feel disappointed. Make sure you spread the word about your trip.

How does the SQM-L readings you obtained compare to your best observing spots at home? My favourite spot is at Mudgee (4 hrs drive NW from Sydney). During the last two years I've had the SQM-L it averages about 21.5-6, is often around the 21.70 mark but has occasionally reached 21.85 - 21.90 (5 trips -- about 12 clear nights).

And BTW -- sounds like you've got an observing log of which you can be very proud. Well done!


Best,

Les D

astrospotter
22-03-2010, 03:29 PM
Hi Les,
Thanks for your thoughts. While taking a plane tour over Arkaroola Doug Sprigg pointed out the high flat area that was considered for the Australian telescope. Sadly I have nowhere near the cash to place my house there but I can dream about that perhaps.

This SQM-L meter has been with me since my last one broke a year ago (the wider field earlier version). As far as local sites, I have fallen in with some very dedicated observers who are a great bunch of guys and so I visit our host's place on a ranch 80 miles south of my highly light poluted San Jose, California home. The range of SQM readings (off of milky way and at zenith) at 2000 or 3000 feet depending on which of the two sites gets between 21.4 to 21.6. So I am fortunate to have such skies and my area of main fun is hunting down galaxy groups and clusters the dimmest of which are Hickson groups where my 18" f/3.7 starmaster hits the blackout around mag 16 range for the little guys.

As far as my list of observations that is a funny topic. I held back and did a lot of re-observation of Herschel 400 list 1 objects and held off on my Herschel 400 list 2 work which is about 60 more left just so I could break the 3000 object count 'down under'. It seemed fitting to break that artificial magic number on the LMC and so it was.

Again, a great time and all Australlians I met were wonderfully nice to this American. I recognize and understand the reasons for America to be so unpopular but I have great hopes that our current president will be working hard to undo what can be undone so hopefully we will be better received in the future.

Thanks to all posts on IceInSpace as they helped me get ready,
you guys are great!

Clear skies,
Mark

Paddy
22-03-2010, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the great report, Mark. I'm glad you had such a good time and not at all surprised - could be few better observing sites. I recently saw a 3-d documentary about Arkaroola, quite amazing.

CometGuy
27-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Hi Mark,

Loved reading your report on the southern skies. Seeing the crux/centaurus/carina milky way from a dark sky is always amazing, as is seeing the Magellanic clouds just floating there in space.

Don't forget those northern sky gems though - M31 and M51 for example. M51 is amazing in a large scope in dark skies :)

Terry

pgc hunter
27-03-2010, 08:57 PM
Fantastic report and great to see a northerner's perspective on the southerns skies.

From a dark sky site, the Magellanic Clouds are incredible. From a site near Renmark where I was in January the LMC literally has a 3-dimensional layered appearance and the Tarantula is an easy naked eye object. Though a widefield small telescope...WOW little knots, fuzzies and clusters everywhere!!! Had a few European visitors with us, they were gobsmacked that a different galaxy to ours could be seen so large and bright with its brightest contents visible to the NAKED EYE!
Oh what I'd give to see the Sagittarius region directly overhead from the same location...

duncan
27-03-2010, 09:07 PM
Fantastic report. So glad you enjoyed your stay and the weather co-operated for you.
Cheers,
Duncan:thumbsup:

astrospotter
31-03-2010, 06:21 PM
Duncan: Is the big dob you are in the picture with a 12" BinTel? If so, I got some mighty fine views from the one I was allowed to use down there for this OR. Lucky you.

CometGuy:
As far as the comment on the LMC hanging in the sky let me share more detail from this write-up about my very of my very first peek My wife and I were driving 1st night out in the dark skys along Horrocks pass going to Port Augusta for the motel and I could see stars out the window (still with wife) and I just HAD to take a peek. I stopped on the side of the road and claimed I needed to wash off a rather big bug splat (which was true but my REAL motive is I just HAD to see the LMC naked eye). I jumped out of the car and slowly cleaned off the bug and took little looks off and there it was. MAN for me that quick little view of that big dude just HANGING out there meant for me that I was REALLY down there. Later that night after settling in to the motel in Port Augusta is when I went back with binoculars and just stat up on that Horrocks pass with some naked eye, full sky and some binocular peeks at big OCs and so on as I mentioned.

It is difficult to explain how alive I felt just out there FINALLY way down south. I had been down in New Zealand 25 years before but had only a mild interest in astronomy so I found southern cross but was quite lost so it was nowhere near as powerful as being way into astronomy and THEN finally just seeing that big ol LMC 'hanging there'

So yes, you hit the nail on the head, it is impressive.:eyepop:

gary
02-04-2010, 01:59 PM
Hi Mark,

Thanks for the fabulous observing report and great to hear Doug looked after you so well
there at Arkaroola.

You realize though that you are telling many of us who live down here what we already
know with regards the range and diversity of objects that can be viewed from far southern latitudes. :)

The good news is that we don't keep it a secret and instead want to encourage
you to spread the word among your observing colleagues in the Bay Area.
Instead of turning East for dark skies, you might want to recommend they head
up 101 to SFO and then turn south-west instead.

We want to see you back here. If you and your colleagues are interested in
observing from Australian skies with large aperture scopes, the good news is
that you don't even need to bring the scopes. Instead, consider joining with
us at one of the 3RF sponsored events. Contact John Bambury or myself
for further details or visit http://www.ozsky.org

Best regards

Gary Kopff
Sydney, Australia
wildcard@wildcard-innovations.com.au

astrospotter
02-04-2010, 08:05 PM
I had found OzSky before the trip. What I had to do on this 1st trip was have my wife also end up with a vacation. So the OzSky sounded fantastic from my personal astronomical perspective but the Arkaroola covered our common desire to see the more arid part of Australia by day (than Sidney/Blue Mountains of a prior trip).

Have taken note of OzSky to be sure and had viewed a web page on it a few months before my trek and will keep that in mind for future treks or to tell others about as the south sky is discussed.

Well ... since I am 'in Rome' I will end with ...

No Worries, ;)
Mark

duncan
03-04-2010, 12:37 AM
Hi Mark,

Yes the Dob is a 12" Bintel. I've had some wonderful nights with it as well.Most of my viewing recently has been with my 6"x1200 refractor though. Not much time to do anything really as it's been very overcast all the time.
Cheers,
Duncan:thumbsup: