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BLiTZWiNG
20-01-2005, 09:47 PM
Well, I've always been interested in space and astronomy, but I've never done anything about it. Having previously had an interest in HAM radio (also tracking and using satellites to communicate to other HAMies (and Andy Thomas aboard MIR!), I still don't feel I've done my interest justice.
Some time in 2003 while driving home from a friends place at about 4am, I spotted the tell tale sign of a comet in the night sky (helps having seen Halley's comet all those years ago, even if the Saturn they showed us at school through the telescope was just a custard blur).
I went to NASA's JPL and did a search on current comets, and found one in the general area I was looking at (not sure how I managed to achieve that any more...). Whether I was actually looking at a comet or not is pretty much irrelevant now. That's just what sparked my interest again.
Since then my interest in getting a telescope has risen again, and I think it's time I did something about it. I've been reading the guides on telescope.com, and they seem very informative, and now I'm looking for a good place to buy one (preferably in Melbourne), and of course some good old advice from anyone willing to give it.
ballaratdragons
20-01-2005, 09:53 PM
Hi Blitz,
Welcome to another Victorian.
We could all recommend different telescopes and where to get them, but we need to know what type of viewing you want to do.
Deep Space, Planetary, both?
Scope: Reflector? Refractor? etc.
We will help you find a good bargain if we can, and not buy crap.
ballaratdragons
20-01-2005, 10:02 PM
We will do our (reflector) best to not be (reflector) biased when we (dobsonian reflector) give our opinions.
Signed,
Reflector. OOPS, I mean Ken.
BLiTZWiNG
20-01-2005, 10:02 PM
Thanks ballaratdragons!
Well, my interest is both deep space and planetary. I'd really like to see mars as best I can, and the rings of saturn.. I'd also like to see what deep space has to offer. I'm in a country town here with very little interferring street light, and a hill 500m away that is basically free from street light, so I was thinking a reflector would probably do the job nicely.
But of course that means it needs to be fairly portable, and of course being my first steps into this, I'd prefer to try and keep the price around $500, unless I can see a reason to up it a bit.
I don't really understand how the base types affect your viewing, so having equatorial, azalt (or whatever it's called) and dobson don't mean too much to me at the moment.
ballaratdragons
20-01-2005, 10:06 PM
Sit back and relax Blitz.
Class is about to begin.
You can get a bloody good 8" reflector for $399 plus $50 delivery to Victoria.
It is a dobsonian mount. (very easy to use and set up)
BLiTZWiNG
20-01-2005, 10:08 PM
From all the reading I've done today, that sounds pretty darn good. Where would I be likely to get such a deal?
ballaratdragons
20-01-2005, 10:17 PM
From Sydney.
I have opened a thread for you in 'Equipment Discussions' called 'Blitz's Questions'. There are usually more people over there to help.
See you there.
Vermin
20-01-2005, 11:42 PM
Hi BLiTZWiNG welcome to the forums!
This is another good site for current comets and Iridium flares:
http://www.heavens-above.com
BLiTZWiNG
20-01-2005, 11:44 PM
Thanks! I've bookmarked the site for later viewing, along with a number of other sites.
Unlike 2 years ago when I tried to find info on the net about astronomy, I seem to be finding plenty of info this time around!
coffeegirl
20-01-2005, 11:59 PM
Hi guys, thought I'd drop in here, I'm new from Melbourne too (south east). Just looking out in the skies tonight for this gas thing happening. Been clouded over last night and tonight is no better but looking to the south there is definate light activity in the skies. If only those clouds would clear. Going to set the alarm and get up in a few hours.
Just gone to look again and it's gone now. It was there 15 minutes ago, like a sunset behind the clouds almost but it's midnight here.
Few weeks ago I caught a glimpse of what I thought was a shooting star only I knew it wasn't because it was so large and bright. Read in the paper it was some space junk of sorts. sorry I'm not up with all the terminology. I've always been fascinated by astronomy and really want to get a telescope. We have a great viewing area from this house even though we are in the city.
Michelle
ballaratdragons
21-01-2005, 12:06 AM
Hi Michelle,
welcome to the forums.
We have a discussion going on over in 'Equipment Discussions" under the heading 'Blitz's Questions" following on from the above conversation and you are welcome to read it and join in. See you over there.
rumples riot
21-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Hey welcome to the site. My recommendation based on your current budget is to get a 10" for a few dollars more in a dobsonian mount. This will give you increased light gathering capacity and slightly better resolution for the planets. You will of course need to buy a few eyepieces as the scope will nost likely come with a 26mm. A 26mm will give good views of nebula, galaxies and clusters of stars, but will be less useful for planetary observation.
For this you could purchase a 15mm eyepiece and a good barlow. The barlow will double your magnification of both eyepieces and thereby provide the eqivilent of a 13mm for the 26 and a 7.5mm for the 15. Therein you will have a 26, 15,13 and 7.5. Thats a nice beginner range.
Anyway if a lot of what I have said makes no sense at this stage, that's ok, I will be happy to explain as many times as you feel necessary. Whats important at this stage, it how much money you want to spend and us helping you to get a good scope for your money. This will then encourage you to go further with the hobby. Bad scopes lead to people dropping out of the hobby. Not what we want. Even if you are a Victorian. LOL. Sorry could not help it.
Finally, ask lots of question, there are plenty of people here who are willing to help and congratulations on your decision to enter into the hobby.
ballaratdragons
21-01-2005, 12:22 AM
Hey Paul,
Watch the Victorian bit!!:mad:
I am originally (25 years ago:eek: ) a Sydney fella and proud of it.
Can't work out why I am still down here:sad: , but thats another story.
Victoria ain't that bad.
iceman
21-01-2005, 08:44 AM
Hi Michelle! :welcome: to the IceInSpace forums :gday:
How did you hear about us?
What type of telescope are you after? If you read the thread Ken started (as he suggested) in the Equipment forum, there's a good discussion there about some different telescopes for beginners.
It really depends on your budget, what you want to use it for, how portable you need it to be, your experience with telescopes, whether you want to starhop or use computerised GOTO controllers, etc.
You'll get all the advice you need from the many experienced and/or enthusiastic folk around here, so please don't hesitate to ask as many questions as you need to. It's the best and quickest way to get over the (sometimes steep) learning curve.
Starkler
21-01-2005, 09:30 AM
Welcome Michelle .
Im also in Melbournes South East.
[1ponders]
21-01-2005, 10:19 AM
Welcome to you both Blitzing and coffeegirl
Striker
21-01-2005, 11:25 AM
Welcome Blits and Michelle,
Whats with all the victorians...I thought you all moved to Queensland.....for a better life....lol....no offence.
astrodave
21-01-2005, 01:09 PM
Welcome
I too am in Melbourne's south east..
Hey Striker - We only go to Queensland in the winter to avoid wearing ourselves out from too much sking ..:whistle: ...
Orion
21-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Welcome all.:clap: :rockband: :thumbsup:
so many new people!!!
WELCOME ALL!!! :D
coffeegirl
21-01-2005, 03:18 PM
wow few from the south east here !!! I'm not far from Fountain Gate.
Thanks for info on other thread, I'll check it out.
Striker, I wish. Really wanted to go to Queensland (Gold Coast) when we sold up last year but boy all the Sydney siders go up to pick up a bargain house in QLD. Only trouble is, Sydney's idea of a bargain is $400k+ lol. The house prices have just gone thru the roof and the wages are still crap. Cheaper to stick to Melbourne and get paid more.
Mike I'm not sure hw I heard about this site, just did a search for astronomy forums last night. I really dont know what sort of scope to buy and to be honest have some higher priority things to buy this year so it's a long term wish. I have zero experience with telescopes. Wouldn't know the first thing about them. I am just wary of buying a cheapie, even if that's my budget for one lol.
Really want to go along to one of those nights the astronomy clubs put on where you pay a small fee and get to look thru their scopes. I really must do that, there is a place down the peninsular way that does it on a Friday evening. I have it bookmarked somewhere here.
Michelle
[subliminal message ] 8" dob from andrewscom.com.au[ /subliminal message ]
BLiTZWiNG
21-01-2005, 03:31 PM
I bet Red Hill would be a great place to take a telescope to...
Starkler
21-01-2005, 06:25 PM
I live about 10 minutes from Fountain Gate myself :)
First Friday of each month I beleive.
ballaratdragons
21-01-2005, 06:42 PM
What suburb is fountain gate in, and could it do with a scope shop?
BLiTZWiNG
21-01-2005, 08:25 PM
fountain gate is narre warren (east side, past dandenong)
I live about 50 minutes from fountain gate :p
ballaratdragons
21-01-2005, 08:33 PM
Too far for me to travel every day.
I might have to consider selling scopes in Victoria on the NET and deliver to Melb and country.
BLiTZWiNG
21-01-2005, 08:37 PM
Couldn't you get some sort of courier service going? I don't know how these things work, but I'm sure sending stuff would get you a wider audience... take Lee for example :p
Starkler
21-01-2005, 10:20 PM
In Melbourne theres scope shops in the city, Heidelburg, and one at Mt Macedon i think.
We could really do with one in Dandenong ! (close enough to fountain gate)
ballaratdragons
21-01-2005, 10:29 PM
To far to travel every day.
I was thinking Western suburbs. Only take 1.5 - 2 hours to get there.
Or courier from net like blitz said.
Dave47tuc
23-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Hi Michelle:)
There is a group down on the Morninton Peninsula who have first friday of the month observing nights you may want to attend:D
Information at http://www.mpas.websyte.com.au/
I was a menber once and there freindly and helpfull:)
Good luck:)
Best.
:astron:
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