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avandonk
16-02-2010, 09:34 AM
The new Peltier fridge allows me to get to low temperatures even on a hot night. The air cooled P fridge could only attain -5C if ambient was at or below about 12C.
This of course meant summer targets were noisier than winter ones.
I chose NGC 3576 as there are a couple of dark dusty nebula in the field. These would show any residual noise better than brighter areas.
Canon 5DH, 100ED at f/7.65 and FL 765mm with Hutech #7887 FR/FF. Hutech LPR filter. FOV approx 3x2 degrees.
Exposures 20X(1m, 2m, 4m, 8m) at 1600ISO. Fridge at -5.0C. Usual HDR method. Ambient started off at 22C and dropped to 18C.
Large image 8.8MB
http://d1355990.i49.quadrahosting.com.au/2010_02/ngc3576nf.jpg
Bert
h0ughy
16-02-2010, 09:48 AM
Bert,
Mate you have floored me with the fridge - thats utter commitment!! as for the image - to me it looks a tad aqua green.
As for the noise do you have a before and after comparison?
avandonk
16-02-2010, 10:32 AM
David this fridge is just a small step in the evolution of the fridge I really want to build. The Canon 5DH's sensor temperature even inside a fridge at -5C is 12C!
The real advantage of my design is that the sensor is the hottest thing inside the fridge so there is NO condensation on the sensor.
I theoretically can get the temperature inside the fridge to about -15C with this system but the freezer cannot cope with the heat load sustainably when ambient is high. I could start to minimise heat leakage by improving the insulation or get a bigger freezer. I will wait until I have fully tested this system.
Even with a camera ambient of -15C the sensor is at 2C.
If you notice I am collecting data at 1600 ISO.
Below are some more pictures of the new fridge along with one of the air cooled fridge. I also put two 200mm 12V fans on the freezers condenser. The compressor then runs far cooler.
Bert
avandonk
16-02-2010, 10:52 AM
Here is Carina with improved dust done with this system 3MB
http://d1355990.i49.quadrahosting.com.au/2010_01/car_nf.jpg
Bert
DavidU
16-02-2010, 11:17 AM
As I look at your system I see how you have found a solution to many challenges. Awesome Bert.
Bassnut
16-02-2010, 05:49 PM
Thats all just awesome, a masterpiece of over the top engineering, my kinda gear, just love it ! :D :prey2:.
Cant see any noise in the pic, so it doing the job nicely.
An easy way to push it further is to dump cooler packs and ice into the tank. I do this regularly, its all part of the routine that gives one hands on satisfaction in utterly rediculous efforts to push boundarys for the hell of it, without breaking the bank :P :thumbsup:.
TrevorW
16-02-2010, 06:14 PM
WTF Bert I'd hate to try and take that to a remote site
zipdrive
16-02-2010, 11:05 PM
love your work Bert!:thumbsup::D
AlexN
16-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Outstanding! Imagine putting an FLI CCD into that fridge... -15c ambient = -75c chip temp :D mwahahha!! :)
The image of 3576 is very cool Bert, The FOV looks familiar (a little wider than mine) but a similar look to my image from a few months back..
The only criticism I have would be that the nebulosity appears muted... and doesn't stand out much against the sea of stars...
The dust does, and looks pretty sweet!
Alex.
strongmanmike
16-02-2010, 11:40 PM
Hmmm? Frankenburters imaging moster :question:
Have to say Burt, looks like a lot of fun was had conjuring all that up :thumbsup:
How does your mount manage to track properly with the Incredible Hulks heart lung machine hanging off it :lol:
Mike
multiweb
17-02-2010, 09:16 AM
:lol: Awesome work Bert. Looks like your next logical step is to mount the fridge, get it to track and fit the camera and OTA on it. ;)
AlexN
18-02-2010, 12:13 AM
Or make a mount out of a fridge? That would be very cool... :P
telecasterguru
18-02-2010, 07:11 AM
Bert,
I am flabergasted. That fridge is way cool.
Frank
oh dear
I love the 2 fans on the back of the fridge.
David Fitz-Henr
18-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Absolutely awesome Bert ! For an absolutely complete setup however, you will need a couple of brackets for the kitchen sink ...
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