Frog eating snake

[Liz]

This snake is currently eating one of my green frogs!!!:sadeyes:
It is the culprit from my letterbox.
Its just above my CAR in carport in front of me .......
I can hear terrible frog curdling sounds as the snake eats it -YUK!!
Had a look in my snake book, but not sure what it is??? Any ideas?

[pmrid]

Non-venomous green tree snake but a good-sized specimen by the look of it.
Peter

[unnamed soldier]

how thick would you say it is??

could be a common tree snake... about the only one i can think of with a yellow belly really....


koool all the same!!! :)

[Liz]

... thanks Peter.
Frogs still making yuk noises .... perhaps it is eating the snake?

[Shep]

EWWWWW! Gave me shudders looking at those pics and thinking of poor froggy :sadeyes:. I agree its a tree snake, I've had those one's here as well they can get really dark olive on top almost black and have a yellow belly.

Do you have some numbers for snake catchers, it's probably a good idea to give one a call and get him relocated. He's definitely a good size for a tree snake tho. If you don't have any numbers the local police station often has a list if you wanted to give them a bell.

[unnamed soldier]

lol beat me to it!! thats one hella GTS if it is... never seen them that big!!

fear not though life is fair

http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2010/01/01/85765_local-news.html

thee frogs do alright :)

[Shep]

http://www.snakewise.com.au/common_snakes.htm

Here's a link with a pick of the Common tree snake for you Liz, what do you think?

[jjjnettie]

Yes, I'd say tree snake too. See how thin his tail is, he uses it to grab hold of branches.
Who would have thought frogs could scream eh.
First time I heard it was when I was living up at Cape Tribulation, and funnily enough, I heard one here just the other day. (got a brown snake living under my house)

[Liz]

Yes, thats the culprit The Common Tree Snake.
Frogs now gone, and snake is looking happy with himself.
Rang snakecatcher people, and they only come out if snake is in the house.

[unnamed soldier]

I wouldn't worry to much about it.. won't hurt anyone.. unless you have pet frogs that is!!

it will go away soon enough

[Shep]

Lazy Peeps! I've never been told that but I guess it depends who you get because most of them are volunteers and do it for free (although I usually give them some cash anyway).

You could always try ringing another catcher and see if they will come, you might get someone more helpful.

Have you got any pic of it from further away to give a good reference for size without the zoom? How long and thick do u reckon it is?

[bloodhound31]

What a magnificent animal! Good shots there Liz.

I used to have an archery bale in my back yard. Once I shot it, the bale screamed at me. I cut the ropes holding all the layers together, pulled my arrow out and there was a poor little green tree frog with a big hold right through him...I felt very bad and buried him in the garden...

I love frogs.

[Liz]

Well, reckon its prob 1 1/2 mt, maybe 2 mt .... I can still see it, so will try for a pic with it stretched out.



:sadeyes: froggy RIP

Yes, unnamed soldier .... waiting for it to go away, thinking positive :thumbsup:

[mithrandir]

Without looking at the picture, there would be two ways to parse "Frog eating snake".

Frog eating a snake.
Frog being eaten by a snake.

I didn't think the first was likely, but you never know.

[Jeffkop]

Looks like ya gotta get the little fella into the house then :lol::lol:

I think you could go close to solving your problem by gettin a MUCH smaller letterbox too !!!;)

[pmrid]

I had one of these set up residence in the engine bay of my ute: driving along one day and the thing popped up in front of me like a hood ornament and proceeded to enjoy the drive. I drove to the nearest tree'lined spot and suggested he transfer residence. Didn't. So it ended up coming home with me. I have a snake-catching stick ( a broomstick with an eye hook in both ends and a piece of smooth light cord/string looped through one and tied to the other so I just stand back, make a small look, place that in front of the snake and let it put it's head through; then just tighten the cord. Snake will wrap itself around the stick so you can put it in a sack. Then, with snake securely in the sack, slack off the noose, tie the sack, drive a couple of km away; untie the neck of the sack and just toss the whole shebank into some nearby grass. The snake will quickly release itself and crawl away. You recover your stick and bag and go home and wait for the next.
This works fine with non-venomous like the GTS and carpet snakes. I wouldn't try it with a nasty.
Peter

[jjjnettie]

yes it does work with nasties. We had a tiger snake take up residence in the laundry shed. My ex doesn't "do" snakes, so I made up a similar device using metal core clothes line.
You just slip the noose around it's neck and pull hard. It quickly breaks it's neck.
I don't share my living space/territory with venomous snakes. I have kids. This Mama is protecting her young.

We do love our pythons, crown, whip, tree and grass snakes and enjoy having them around.

[Rainingstar]

I found a poor little beheaded baby Carpet Python in the front yard the other day, can't work out how it was killed though. The head was about 1/2 mtr from the body and it just looked like it had been pulled from the body??

[AlexN]

Yep... Green tree snake for sure.. Here's a pic of what you heard :D


JJJ - Whilst I'm sure you are aware I don't like the idea of snakes being killed, I can definitely understand that in your position, its about the only safe option... Protect Thy Younguns! :)

[GrahamL]

Pity bout the frog Liz :(.. Did you try pokeing it with a stick , it might of spat the frog out .

Where I used to work we would come across quitea few pythons over the years eating dead bats (colony above) if they spotted you they would always cough up , Don't kow why maybe they are pretty vulnerable when they eat ?

[jjjnettie]

I knew you'd understand Alex. I don't relish doing it, it's just something that for me, has to be done.

[jjjnettie]

it could have been through a slasher?? or a dog could have gotten to it.

[AlexN]

Would you poke the frog for eating a grasshopper? or the grasshopper for eating a leaf off a plant? Do you poke yourself every time you eat meat?

Its nature... Everything eats something else, its natural, its instinct and its survival... and more often than not, disturbing a snake during feeding will result in one thing. a fairly swift defensive move on the snakes part...

Which is probably what you would do if you were at a restaurant and a vegetarian started poking you with a stick to make you spit out your steak...

[that_guy]

i would hose the snake out with a high pressure hose or burn it out using the scope and the sun... :D

[AlexN]

Would you do the same to a dog? a Koala? or just Snakes? Its good to know that In the thread regarding the welfare of a dog that had been abused, most everyone who posted in the thread expressed their disgust at the mistreatment and abuse of animals, yet its considered perfectly fine to abuse a snake simply because you don't understand them or you fear them...

Great stuff.

[unnamed soldier]

it would have 'spat out' (regurgitated) the bat because it cannot escape from you with a full stomach.. they will often do this when scared, threatened or stressed so they can move away quicker.. a snake that has just eaten a meal is very vulnerable to other predators...

I also have to agree with AlexN here as I am into reptile keeping (as pets) it disturbs me that people will 'poke' the animal just because its a snake.. this is also the reason snakes get a bad name as they will defend themselves from being 'poked' as would any animal.. the differenece being they can kill with their DEFENCE... more people get biten by 'poking', killing or otherwise antagonising a snake.... If there is a snake regardless of if it is 'harmless' it would be best left alone unless you know what you are doing.. just call a snake catcher to come and remove it for you and most do it for free!! :)

jjj I am of the same opinion of AlexN in regards to your situation I would never try come between a mother and her childrens safety..

"rspca - for all creatures great and small.... so long as it has fur or feathers......................' :p :)

Liz if the little one will not leave send me a PM and I will see if i can find someone to come remove it for you....

Josh

[AlexN]

Josh - Good to see another reptile keeper on the forums! :)

[unnamed soldier]

:)

[GrahamL]

I hate grasshoppers Alex so I'd pat the frog on the head , If I was chowing down on the back end of cow while its still very much alive I'd expect somone to poke me :)

I don't have a problem with nature doing its thing , but If I catch a snake trying to swallow the frog out my back patio thats been eating grasshoppers and mozzies for the last couple of years I will try and
help the little guy if it isn't to late.



no it won't unless it can punch me on the nose ,as its got my
frog in its mouth :D

[Shep]

How did your day end up panning out Liz, has the snake disappeared to wherever he came from?

[Liz]

Well, he seems to have gone into hiding again, but when I got home from work last night, there was another green frog sitting where the other was gobbled :sadeyes:
As most of you say though, thats life and survival :shrug: ... and .... we do a bit of killing ourselves.

[Shep]

Fingers crossed he's moved on then. I try to be unbiased and remember the laws of nature but .....i'm on the frogs side......:P. If there was a way I could intervene without pissing the snake off I probably would, I know I always think to myself when I relocate frogs that I hope I don't put them down somewhere to be dinner for something else. It's not just snakes though, birds like them too, especially Kookaburras!

[that_guy]

i like frogs... to eat!!!:evil2::evil2: