On the band wagon - a starless Orions Sword

[strongmanmike]

Well if you can't beat'em...join'em :P

http://upload.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/120570808/original

I still think my brain preferes it with stars buuuut I guess I quite like it actually, looks very dramatic really...? Like a space art fine airbrush painting :confuse3:

Here is the close up of the main nebula, without stars:

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/120571470/original


.....:question:...thanks Fred :lol:...oh and Jeanette :D

Mike

[Octane]

Mike,

Wrong link. Log out of your pbase account and try clicking on the link you've posted here.

Regards,
Humayun

[AlexN]

Still got a couple of spots to clean up Mike, but it looks very nice.. As you say - I think it gives it a painted sort of appearance...

Its definitely an artsy sort of approach to astro imaging... A lot like narrowband without the crazy colours! :)

[strongmanmike]

Fixed Humi :thumbsup:

[Matty P]

Interesting to see it without stars. Makes it a lot easier to appreciate the complexity of the nebula.

Arty indeed. :)

[strongmanmike]

Cleaned up :thumbsup:

Tis my first go at this actually, and like narrowband imaging becomes, this Vander-starless-haven stuff is pretty fun :thumbsup: :P

Mike

[AlexN]

The best part Mike, Next time you capture a narrowband data set, and you can't be bothered layering in RGB stars, but you don't want ugly looking narrowband stars... You know what you can do?! Just boot the pesky beggers out the door!

As I mentioned in JJJ's thread, now that the stars are removed, you should have a go at more heavy handed stretching, you dont need to worry about stars bloating or losing colour.. you can sharpen further as you don't have to worry about the little dark rings around stars... Really blast the starless image with a ton of processing and see what you can find!

[Hagar]

I like it with sparkly bits. Just doesn't look the same without stars. I even prefer Orion with difraction spikes.

[Ken]

The dark filaments look great not sure about the stars, Fred I mean Mike.
Clear skies Ken

[telecasterguru]

I think these starless images are very interesting. I believe they are just as relevant as star shots. Concentrating on the nebulosity gives a new perspective and I don't mind that at all.

Frank

[troypiggo]

Very cool - I'd like to see the results of a starless cluster or galaxy.

:nerd:

[Bassnut]

I like it Mike, dramatic. Almost like a painting you could hang on the wall.

[Omaroo]

And to remember that you once razzed me Mike for saying "too many stars". I knew what I liked then, and I do now. LOL! :)

Looks good BTW.

[jjjnettie]

It's a fun and interesting project for a rainy day.

I'll echo Troy's comment, I'd like to see a starless galaxy.

[strongmanmike]

Cheers for looking and thanks for the replies, those who did :thumbsup:..read'em all but am lazy and wont reply indovidually :P

Chris, I remember that, you complained that there were too many stars in an image:rofl::rofl::rofl: still sounds hilarious saying it now :thumbsup:...wonder if I could try removing stars from this image of mine...:question:

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/116182738/original

It would go from being the "Snake Nebula" to the..?.."rectangular window open at night nebula"..? :lol:

Dougy com'on man you are iffy about NB, you are iffy about starless, sheesh you gotta throw off those cloths and burn ya imaging bra big fella :lol:

Mike

[Omaroo]

That's OK Mike - I know that you're just being facetious. ;)

The reason I like semi-starless images is because I consider the nebulous region more important to my sense of wonder - it may not be yours (well - it obviously isn't). Fred's M8 blew me away when I first saw it and still does now. I like the beautiful shapes gas forms - not all the dotty junk in between - that's just me though. :thumbsup:

[strongmanmike]

Yeh yeh I know, just joshing around. You are quite right, when the stars are not there your brain sees the nebulosity structure better.

Mike

[AlexN]

Someone should do a starless milky way wide field.. :) Or a starless star cluster... :) mmmm interesting... (you could fool people by saying you imaged a star cluster and just post a stack of dark subtracted dark frames.. :) )

[h0ughy]

ahh the next image for spsp

[marc4darkskies]

Oh Mike, what are you doing??!! A bit of fun perhaps, but it's a perfectly good way of ruining a perfectly good astroimage IMO! :screwy: Minimise them, reduce them - whatever - but please don't erase them!! Call me a fuddy duddy, but when I look at a landscape photo - say a mountain scene with lots of beautiful pine trees in the foreground - I actually WANT to see the trees!! :shrug:

Cheers, Marcus

[strongmanmike]

Bah!..?...Fuddy Duddy :poke:

Surely you liked this one though Marcus :shrug:: http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/120572521/original

This will win the DM's next year for sure - inovation prize :thumbsup:

:D

[AlexN]

"Award for best astro image destroyed by extreme over-processing and incorrect use of artistic filters" perhaps :) :P

[jjjnettie]

Hmmmmm, I'm not too sure about that one Mike. Maybe if you removed the stars from it first it would have come out better.:rofl:

[jjjnettie]

I wonder how many more nude and naked starless repros are we going to see?
This rain is predicted for a few more days yet.

[h0ughy]

few too many brews for the last effort. you might as well used the filter pack from topaz

[Hagar]

:prey:

Iffy I throw away the cloths and burn the bra there will be a lot of people laughing to hard or throwing up to much to look at your images Mike.
Iam mellowing about NB images and see some merrit in it these days but starless may as well be just a mixed pallet of colour. I can see myself trying NB but I doubt starless. I think your first sugestion may happen first.:eyepop:

[strongmanmike]

The narrow band, starless, nude bear :thumbsup:

[jjjnettie]

Oh my....
things are going down hill real fast in this thread
we're all going a little stir crazy with all this rain.

[kinetic]

Mike could you point me in the right direction towards a
step by step explanation of this technique?
I'd love to try it on some of my stuff.

Love the result!

Steve

[jjjnettie]

Alex posted a small tutorial about it here.
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=54554
You'll have to scroll down for it.

[kinetic]

Thanks

[danielsun]

Mike, I just clicked about what you ment by getting rid of them stars in my ETA thread. :lol:
That is different without stars, incredible neb detail:eyepop:


Cheers Daniel.

[bartman]

Marcus says , : "but when I look at a landscape photo - say a mountain scene with lots of beautiful pine trees in the foreground - I actually WANT to see the trees!!."
What if in the foreground there is a row of power poles and power lines?
Surely you would erase them to appreciate the trees and mountains?
Just my 2cents
Bartman

[jjjnettie]

To each their own Bart.

[Terry B]

Interesting effect but I must admit I don't see the point. I woudn't ever add stars to an image without them so why take them away.

[Hagar]

Similar body shape ,just I have more hair now white/grey but it use to be RED>>>>

[RB]

I like it !
Now, if only you could replicate the hairdo.

:lol:

[multiweb]

Did Eta Carina explode? :eyepop: You guys are slack! :lol:

[Bassnut]

Thats it, im dying it red :mad2:

[Bassnut]

mmmm, a stroke of genius, think about it, has that been done ?, I mean properly, as an artistic effect. mmmm :thanx: :D

[multiweb]

:lol: gotta say that the only genius in this thread is the Einstein look a like dude. :thumbsup: Pull your tongue out and we've got the next IISAC T-shirt ;)