Impact (on Prime , Seven).

[Ian Robinson]

What a lot of gobbledigook and pseudosciencific doggy doos ....

Lets see the moon is hit by an object .... OK .... it happens .

The impactor is a brown dwarf or bit of remnant from a collision between two brown dwarfs in deep space somewhere .... yeh r - i - g - h - t :rolleyes: .... no one has mentioned Nibiru .... well at least that' is a plus.....

The bit of brown dwarf has imbedded itself inside the moon .... is a supermagnetic piece of hypermass , a little bit has been found on earth after a fragment hit , it's fist size and let the hypermass fragment can be lifted..... um .... two brown dwarfs wouldn't collide , they merge and you would wind up with a small dim red dwarf ..... these Hollywood story writers are scientific ignoramuses and really to pick up a phone and talk to some real astronomers or physicists and get their details sorted ....

Top it off with moon's mass being greater than earth's after (I think that was mentioned) , and the moon now has a huge magnetic field .... everyone is going to die in 48 hrs ..... :rolleyes: yet the moon still orbits earth .... LOL

I passed up watching Midsummer Murders or the chinese slice and dice called Hero on SBS to watch this dribble .... :sadeyes:

Synopis .... not enough people are going to see 2012 .... put a earth destruction movie on and drum up some more ticket sales ..... :thanx:

[Ian Robinson]

Oh and of cause the yanks think they can save the day by attacking the moon with the earth's full compliment of nukes ....


But wait .... there is more .... they build a super EM weapon , go to the moon (in under 16 days) , the astronauts are on suicide mission , and they make the moon's core supermagnetic with the same polarity as the brown dwarf inside it (from the impact) and we are all saved ....

and live happily ever after of cause.....


At least there is one good movie I can watch tonight (later on NBN) , The Unforgiven . So the night's not a total loss.

[Miaplacidus]

Oh, here comes that bad guy, looking to get even with grandpa.

[Miaplacidus]

Awwww...
Turned out to have a heart after all (offering the candy bar).

[GeoffW1]

I thought it was good that Prince Phillip is in the movie (James Cromwell). I'll always now associate him with that line from The Queen: "Move over cabbage !"

[Ian Robinson]

The nasty survalist red neck dood.

I kike grandpa .... he's in the tear jerking role ..... his dicky ticker will give in and the nasty survalist guy will turn good and protect the kids ... of cause .... tough with a soft heart ....

even bad men are redeemable in these crappy movies .... why is that ?

EDIt .... I should write these scripts .... I am always right on the money....

Yes I'm still watching , .... only because I'm waiting for the midnight movie on NBN ....

[seanliddelow]

Mistake 1:They are using telescopes to look at a meteor shower:rofl:
Mistake 2:The KT asteroid was 8.5 Km big

[Miaplacidus]

So, is anyone gonna come back, y'reckon? How about the dude with the pregnant fiancee?

[Miaplacidus]

Guess not...

[Ian Robinson]

I missed the first sequence .... I was iViewing Torchwood Ep8 at the time.

[Miaplacidus]

3 minutes until detonation

[Ian Robinson]

I'm done ... The Unforgiven has just started so Ilm bailing on Impact.

[ngcles]

Hi Ian & All,

I bailed out after the first twenty minutes because I discovered we didn't have enough Stematil in the house to continue safely ...

Instead, I watched a chick-flick DVD with my 18yo daughter, but when that finished, Impact was still on so ...

Here I am.


Best,

Les D

[Waxing_Gibbous]

I thought it was awesome. The finest C7 has to offer. 4 minutes of film, 6 minutes of commercials, bad science, meaningless jargon, handsome brainiac with dead wife, big b****d love interest, snivelling, whining children, cranky grandad, weeping hausfrau, and a machine filled with neon tubes a la STOS 1967. Oh and a blown up moon!
Magnificent.

[Jen]

:eyepop: hehe oh thank god for that i was spitting chips that i forgot to tape it :lol::lol::lol:
Ok i go back to watching season 2 box set of the solar system DVD's ;) I love them :D

[renormalised]

Another grand schlock disaster movie from Hollyweird...now it'll be the Universe is going to collapse and we only have a year to live. But Uncle Sam will save the day, of course:P:P:D:D

[AdrianF]

Boy am I happy they saved us again. I can finish processing M42 with a clear mind now. Phew!

Adrian

[Hagar]

Come on you clowns, it was a TV show, light entertainment (very light on the entertainment side) not a doco. Better than watching the soaps and more police stories.

[Ian Robinson]

No it wasn't .... I was definitely dudded by this one .... what a waste of time .... Midsummer Murders would have definitely been the better choice last night .... must check iView and see if I can still see last night's episode.

Hell , I could have watched Stargate Universe ep09 (I'd just torrented it yesterday avo).
Or I could have iViewed Torchwood from last week (ABC is still bad here .... definitely the transmitter).

[FredSnerd]

I agree with you Doug. Any respite from those police stories and sickeningly sanctimonious police characters is welcome in my book, even a cra$%y film like Impact

[dpastern]

yeah but Doug, it does nothing for *real* science. Is there a wonder that the public believe BS like this? I'd rather be educating the public with correct information, than crap like this. Especially in the International year of Astronomy I might add.

I watched part of this and then had to simply walk away. Poor SFX, cardboard acting, incredibly stupid plot. Drivel from Hollywood. Yes, let's blow up the moon so we can slow the Earth's rotational period down...gee oh whiz golly me pickle me grandmother colour me pink (for Jen). lol.

Dave

[FredSnerd]

David I think you might be assuming that the public is taking this seriously. I dont think they are. Thye see the flawes like we do and they put up with it like we do. Exceopt foir the 15 year olds like we used to be who think ITS GREAT!!!! and talk about it monday morning just before school.

[Ian Robinson]

Got news for you .... a large section of our society is scientifically uneducated / scientifically illiterate , even more so in the USA and a significant fraction of those people actually believe the "science" presented in this kind of movie .... heck they also believe in ghosts , spirits, demons, alien abductions, UFOs , creationism.....

The regularly reappearing threads here and elsewhere about Nibiru and the like attest to the fact some fools believe this kind of crud.

The least Hollywood can do , is pick a phone and talk to real astronomers and physicists , or bring some in as story / plot / effects consultants to a least give these things some plausible scientific basis.

[dpastern]

Sorry Claude, but I can't agree with you on this. The public are mostly scientifically illiterate. Have you wondered why sciences in high school year 11/12 are dying? Because the youth aren't interested (mostly). I'd rather be boring and teach the kids the right information and have intelligent and plausible movies on TV that drivel like this.

Dave

[FredSnerd]

Ian,

Im sure you will always find someone who believes in the most unlikely thing but in my experiance most people watch this kind of crud for entertainment but otherwise put no credit in the science. I never heard of this movie before. I think its just a telemovie. In other words the movie makers and the TV stations knew that no ones gonna take this film seriously. Its just peoples Friday night escape.

I just went on rotten tomatoes. The latest big box office movie 2012. Has an approval rating of 37%. In other words 63% thought it was C$%P and of the 37% do you think they believed in the science. I dont think so. They just went to see some great special effects. IMOP people (us) are much smarter then we like to think.

[Hagar]

I cannot believe the mentality of some of the so called educated mob here. The TV movie was exactly that, a TV movie. Nothing more, nothing less. At no stage do they imply that it is real.
Nexxt thing you will be telling me is all the hospital shows are real also. SCRUBS is probably the closest to real hospital life.
Police shows and murder mystries etc. Far from the truth. Ask any police detective.

Come on wake up and smell the roses. The other thing you can do is press the off button, simple.

[Ric]

Awwww, I didn't even realise it was on. I love a good old disaster movie.

The "Towering Inferno" has to be an all time classic.

[dpastern]

Doug - just because they don't imply that it's real doesn't mean that people will believe it, or elements of the story.

I mean, people believe the Earth was flat because a popular religion encouraged it. It wasn't until some people used their brains and questioned things that we realised the Earth wasn't flat. The public is easily misled and brainwashed imho.

Dave

[Miaplacidus]

Uh oh, looks like this thread might degenerate into a mush of mindless generalizations about how dumb people are. Excellent! I'll get the ball rolling by recounting the anecdote about when I was in the Northern Hemisphere and I had this conversation with quite a nice bloke who was convinced I was just trying to trick him when I said it was Summer on the other side of the earth in January. (He'd reluctantly accepted that maybe the moon would look upside down from Australia, but this other stuff... "What sort of idiot do you take me for?")

Any others?

[toetoe]

What do you mean "was flat" oh no have i missed something :question:
as for the movie, come on everyone, get over it, i thought it was ok for entertainment.

[Waxing_Gibbous]

Dimwits in the US are no dimmer than here, there are just more of them.
I suspect on a per-capita basis the ratio of 'dumb' to 'smart' would work out about the same. Anyone daft enough to believe science from a film as bad as this is going to be border-line rational anyway and would likely have voted for GWB Jr. But, Lord help us, they can vote.
True, it WAS an awful flick, but not because of the psuedo-science, which was no more pseudo than that of "Star Trek" or "Stargate" or "MegaShark vs Giant Octopus".

Suspension of disbelief is intergral to enjoyment of Fantasy and Sci-Fi.
Providing its too not preposterous, I can usually do this.
What made it an awful flick was the wretched acting, woeful dialogue, cliched plot devices and begining to end predictability.

What should p*** you off, is the hocus-pocus of String Theory being presented as science. I notice the previously credible journal, "New Scientist", seems to have jumped on the band wagon as well as "Astronomy" and the final straw the BBC.
The amount of otherwise good research dollars being poured into what is an essentially unprovable, quai-religious philisophy is staggering.

[kinetic]

I once showed my neighbor inside my dome after he pestered me about
'what's that thing for'........

On opening it up he peered inside at the setup.
'All homemade mate', I said proudly,'telescope, homemade, ground the
mirror myself'.
'Tripod, homemade. Computer tracking, homemade...cameras
homemade...dome, yep homemade also.'

silence

I could tell his eyes had glazed over after a few words.

Then he turned to me and said ' Maaaate this would make an
excellent bong room'........

Steve

[Jen]

:lol::lol::lol: lol Steve

[dpastern]

hahaha, that's a classic.

Dave

[Baddad]

Hi Peter & All, :)

Sounds that there's a lot of mixed opinions on the movie.

Some liked it. Nothing wrong with that. Personally it was not my bag. I yo-yo'ed between it and a couple of other channels. I wondered why I came back to the movie three times. I had formed my opinion of it. Blah!...:mad2:

It was one of those nights, lazing, watching TV. nothing much on after "The Universe" on Foxtell.;)

Don't get me wrong, just because I did not like it does not make it a bad movie. :D;)

Cheers Marty

[ngcles]

Hi Doug & All,



True Doug, but not only was the science very poor, the script was awful, the acting "B-grade" and the special effects were very mediocre. It was, as an all-round package a crap movie. The portrayal of what passes to be "science" in this way is what actually causes a lot of uninformed people to become mis-informed -- which is worse than uninformed. It is neither hard nor expensive to get the facts right on something like this, so why not get them right?



Absolutely true Doug. :thumbsup: Do two wrongs make a right here?:shrug:



Once I noticed we were running low on stematil that's percisely what I did. :thumbsup:

Never thought I'd say this but instead, we put "Confessions of a Shop-a-holic" DVD on and it was a more enjoyable experience for this 47 year-old man. 'Nuff said ;)


Best,

Les D

[Enchilada]

Just watched it on a Sunday afternoon….

I can't believe this thread… Surely the worst part was gravity going in reverse, with people being sucked up into the air. I mean flying people, flying cars, hay bales, etc. :rofl:

Also brown dwarfs are not dense object, only white dwarfs are. They mixed up the two, and explained it as both. They meant white dwarfs. Also white dwarfs are strongly magnetic, but only because of their fast rotation.

Yet if a piece of white dwarf did do what happened in the movie it is impossible, because with out the gravity the piece would expand back to normal matter - mind you not nickel or iron, but mostly carbon, oxygen and nitrogen. The object would have been a comet like object not any solid mass.

Ye, cannot change the laws of physics. Impossible.

The worst for me, however, is the portrayal of amateur astronomers by Hollywood. Why are we made out as geeks?

The other thing is why was one of the lead female artists Dr Maddie Rhodes (played by Natasha Hensgtridge) in an observatory at night and still dress to the nines! :lol:

…yet just to show how gullible it is presently rated on "The Internet Movie Database" 5.6/10 !!

As one commenter said; "TOTAL WASTE OF THE TIME!!!"

Comments on this site are worth the read; See; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1227637/usercomments

[Ian Robinson]

Who's to say it isn't .... (as well ....) .... ?

I wouldn't smoke the stuff , but plenty do.