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Chris Southby
17-11-2009, 10:20 PM
Hi all
I am begining my travels in astrophotography. I am currently experimenting with prime focus work with a DSLR.
My question is whether a Baader MPCC would be useful, all I have read so far seems to suggest that they are mostly used with eyepieces and not with prime focus photography.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
cheers
chris:shrug:
Short answer, yes.
But, its most benificial when used on fast scopes, like f5, f4 etc.
The MPCC is used for both astro imaging and viewing, and works well.
Theo
White Rabbit
18-11-2009, 09:55 AM
It depends on the type of scope, refractors dont need them, but newts do. If you dont have one on you newt you end up with egg shaped stars. This is due to the mirror being parabolic in shape, this causes different focal lenghts at the botton of the mirror curve than the top.
Chris Southby
18-11-2009, 02:04 PM
Thanks guys
I have an F5 Newt so it looks like I'll be after an MPCC sooner or later than.
Cheers
Chris
toryglen-boy
18-11-2009, 03:20 PM
Chris
I use an MPCC on a 200mm F5 newt for imaging, it works wonders
:D
multiweb
18-11-2009, 04:04 PM
Get a baader MPCC. Definitely a keeper. :thumbsup:
TheDecepticon
18-11-2009, 06:14 PM
I believe that statement to be somewhat incorrect. It is not uncommon for a refractor to need a field flattener of some sort.:)
peter_4059
18-11-2009, 07:25 PM
I thought the MPCC was intended to correct coma in Newtonians rather than be used as a field flattener in a refractor?
"The only Newtonian Coma Corrector that does not change (increase) the focal length of the telescope in any way. f4 Newton optics will remain f/4!"
http://www.baader-planetarium.com/pdf/mpcc_e.pdf
peter_4059
18-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Also have a look at the Televue universal paracorr - I've been very happy with mine.
AlexN
18-11-2009, 08:31 PM
I'm using a Baader MPCC to flatten the field of my TMB F/6 refractor. I looked at many other options (and spent quite a lot of money testing them...)
I finally decided I did not want any focal reduction (most flatteners are a 0.8x or 0.85x reducer as well) I was told by the previous owner of my refractor that an MPCC would flatten the field provided the distance from the chip to the MPCC was exactly the right distance.... I thought, it can't hurt to try it out... Gave it a go and have been using the MPCC since.. Perfectly flat field without any focal length reduction..
peter_4059
18-11-2009, 09:45 PM
Alex,
Sounds like an added bonus for the MPCC - it also works as a field flattener for refractors!!
ps the Televue paracorr increases focal length by 15% :thumbsup:
White Rabbit
19-11-2009, 10:00 AM
I new that refractors needed a field flattener but I did not know that an MPCC would do the job. I suppose it makes sense as the problem is the same for both types of scope but the cause is differnet.
I'll need to try that on my ED 102...
Thanks
Chris Southby
19-11-2009, 10:51 AM
Thanks for all the info.
Due to limited funds I can either afford to get a Baader MPCC or a GSO 2 inch 10:1 microfocuser at the moment. The other will have to wait until later. The current focuer is the standard Skywatcher crayford that comes with the Blackdiamond Newts.
Any recomendations on which one would be the most useful to begin with. I'll get the other one some time later.
Cheers
Chris
multiweb
19-11-2009, 01:06 PM
I'd bite the bullet and get the MPCC. You can improve your focuser down the road.
toryglen-boy
23-11-2009, 03:43 PM
agreed.
i use the MPCC with the SW Crayford, and while its not fantastic, its still a very workable solution.
;)
Benno85
30-11-2009, 08:47 AM
Does the MPCC assist with reachiong focus? At present I can't focus my Canon through my 8" Newt, will the MPCC correct this or did you have to modify your tube? :thumbsup:
multiweb
30-11-2009, 09:11 AM
That's the good thing about the MPCC. It won't change your focal length so focus will be in the same spot or extremely close. If you have an in-focus problem you might want to use a barlow.
pmrid
30-11-2009, 02:44 PM
And the $64Million question is ..... what is that distance? Is it the magic 55mm?
Peter
toryglen-boy
30-11-2009, 02:47 PM
i find in general the MPCC moves focus in slightly, that is, i dont have to rack the focuser out as much as without it
:)
peter_4059
01-12-2009, 01:58 PM
Peter - it would appear so - have a look at the instructions in the link I posted earlier in this thread.
Peter
Octane
01-12-2009, 08:25 PM
Question: who sells the MPCC, locally?
Regards,
Humayun
multiweb
01-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Andrews's got them. Got it there a couple of years ago. They used to retail for $300.00 mark or so. I assume Bintel too would have them? They're pretty popular and common nowadays.
Octane
01-12-2009, 08:28 PM
Thanks, Marc!
Regards,
Humayun
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