More LHC Nonsense

[sjastro]

As if being destroyed by Black Holes wasn't enough.

Explosions, scientists arrested for alleged terrorism, mysterious breakdowns — recently Cern’s Large Hadron Collider (LHC) has begun to look like the world’s most ill-fated experiment.
Is it really nothing more than bad luck or is there something weirder at work? Such speculation generally belongs to the lunatic fringe, but serious scientists have begun to suggest that the frequency of Cern’s accidents and problems is far more than a coincidence.
The LHC, they suggest, may be sabotaging itself from the future — twisting time to generate a series of scientific setbacks that will prevent the machine fulfilling its destiny.
At first sight, this theory fits comfortably into the crackpot tradition linking the start-up of the LHC with terrible disasters. The best known is that the £3 billion particle accelerator might trigger a black hole capable of swallowing the Earth when it gets going. Scientists enjoy laughing at this one.
This time, however, their ridicule has been rather muted — because the time travel idea has come from two distinguished physicists who have backed it with rigorous mathematics.
What Holger Bech Nielsen, of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto, are suggesting is that the Higgs boson, the particle that physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be “abhorrent to nature”.
What does that mean? According to Nielsen, it means that the creation of the boson at some point in the future would then ripple backwards through time to put a stop to whatever it was that had created it in the first place.
This, says Nielsen, could explain why the LHC has been hit by mishaps ranging from an explosion during construction to a second big bang that followed its start-up. Whether the recent arrest of a leading physicist for alleged links with Al-Qaeda also counts is uncertain.
Nielsen’s idea has been likened to that of a man travelling back through time and killing his own grandfather. “Our theory suggests that any machine trying to make the Higgs shall have bad luck,” he said.
“It is based on mathematics, but you could explain it by saying that God rather hates Higgs particles and attempts to avoid them.”
His warnings come at a sensitive time for Cern, which is about to make its second attempt to fire up the LHC. The idea is to accelerate protons to almost the speed of light around the machine’s 17-mile underground circular racetrack and then smash them together.
In theory the machine will create tiny replicas of the primordial “big bang” fireball thought to have marked the creation of the universe. But if Nielsen and Ninomiya are right, this latest build-up will inevitably get nowhere, as will those that come after — until eventually Cern abandons the idea altogether.
This is, of course, far from being the first science scare linked to the LHC. Over the years it has been the target of protests, wild speculation and court injunctions.
Fiction writers have naturally seized on the subject. In Angels and Demons, Dan Brown sets out a diabolical plot in which the Vatican City is threatened with annihilation from a bomb based on antimatter stolen from Cern.
Blasphemy, a novel from Douglas Preston, the bestselling science-fiction author, draws on similar themes, with a story about a mad physicist who wants to use a particle accelerator to communicate with God. The physicist may be American and the machine located in America, rather than Switzerland, but the links are clear.
Even Five, the TV channel, has got in on the act by screening FlashForward, an American series based on Robert Sawyer’s novel of the same name in which the start-up of the LHC causes the Earth’s population to black out for two minutes when they experience visions of their personal futures 21 years hence. This gives them a chance to change that future.
Scientists normally hate to see their ideas perverted and twisted by the ignorant, but in recent years many physicists have learnt to welcome the way the LHC has become a part of popular culture. Cern even encourages film-makers to use the machine as a backdrop for their productions, often without charging them.
Nielsen presents them with a dilemma. Should they treat his suggestions as fact or fiction? Most would like to dismiss him, but his status means they have to offer some kind of science-based rebuttal.
James Gillies, a trained physicist who heads Cern’s communications department, said Nielsen’s idea was an interesting theory “but we know it doesn’t happen in reality”.
He explained that if Nielsen’s predictions were correct then whatever was stopping the LHC would also be stopping high-energy rays hitting the atmosphere. Since scientists can directly detect many such rays, “Nielsen must be wrong”, said Gillies.
He and others also believe that although such ideas have an element of fun, they risk distracting attention from the far more amazing ideas that the LHC will tackle once it gets going.
The Higgs boson, for example, is thought to give all other matter its mass, without which gravity could not work. If the LHC found the Higgs, it would open the door to solving all kinds of other mysteries about the origins and nature of matter. Another line of research aims to detect dark matter, which is thought to comprise about a quarter of the universe’s mass, but made out of a kind of particle that has so far proven impossible to detect.
However, perhaps the weirdest of all Cern’s aspirations for the LHC is to investigate extra dimensions of space. This idea, known as string theory, suggests there are many more dimensions to space than the four we can perceive.
At present these other dimensions are hidden, but smashing protons together in the LHC could produce gravitational anomalies, effectively tiny black holes, that would reveal their existence.
Some physicists suggest that when billions of pounds have been spent on the kit to probe such ideas, there is little need to invent new ones about time travel and self-sabotage.
History shows, however, it is unwise to dismiss too quickly ideas that are initially seen as science fiction. Peter Smith, a science historian and author of Doomsday Men, which looks at the links between science and popular culture, points out that what started as science fiction has often become the inspiration for big discoveries.
“Even the original idea of the ‘atomic bomb’ actually came not from scientists but from H G Wells in his 1914 novel The World Set Free,” he said.
“A scientist named Leo Szilard read it in 1932 and it gave him the inspiration to work out how to start the nuclear chain reaction needed to build a bomb. So the atom bomb has some of its origins in literature, as well as research.”
Some of Cern’s leading researchers also take Nielsen at least a little seriously. Brian Cox, professor of particle physics at Manchester University, said: “His ideas are theoretically valid. What he is doing is playing around at the edge of our knowledge, which is a good thing.
“He is pointing out that we don’t yet have a quantum theory of gravity, so we haven’t yet proved rigorously that sending information into the past isn’t possible.
“However, if time travellers do break into the LHC control room and pull the plug out of the wall, then I’ll refer you to my article supporting Nielsen’s theory that I wrote in 2025.”
This weekend, as the interest in his theories continued to grow, Nielsen was sounding more cautious. “We are seriously proposing the idea, but it is an ambitious theory, that’s all,” he said. “We already know it is not very likely to be true. If the LHC actually succeeds in discovering the Higgs boson, I guess we will have to think again.”

[dpastern]

Well, I've made my feelings clear on this particular device elsewhere - I do not believe that we should be tinkering with this sort of device. Period. I know the scientists are going "nothing will go wrong", but what happens if something *does* go wrong? I'd rather not take the chance to be honest. Are those scientists going to offer their lives as punishment for committing crimes against humanity if something does go wrong (providing there is time enough for a trial of course)? I'd sure as hell want to see all of them strung up if it's going to result in the end of the planet and all species living on it.

Sorry for my strong words, but I firmly believe that there are some things that man wasn't meant to tinker with (genetics is another one of them).

Dave

[Zaps]

Yes, science is Evil. Especially when you don't understand it.

Actually, that should say "ONLY when you don't understand it".

[marki]

Ha ha. Now the god particle has an awareness of time and has even developed it's own personallity. Next it will be seen buying calvin klien jocks from Kmart. Still it is physics after all :P.

Mark

[dpastern]

I didn't say science is evil. I said that some things are best left alone. What happens if something does go wrong? All those "smart" scientists will be wrong. The few that showed caution, will be proved right. By then, it'll probably be too late for it to matter. Sometimes, throwing caution to the wind is not the *right* way of doing things. Notice that the scientists that are pro for it, aren't saying it'll definitely not have any of these raised issues. They are saying that it's unlikely. Hedged bets if you ask me. If they can't be 100% sure that nothing untoward will happen to the planet, then we shouldn't be doing it. Plain and simple.

I know many people who don't want this experiment to go ahead. What happened to our vote? Or is it just tough luck, the science lads want to do it, so tough ****?

Dave

[Zaps]

The difference between the scientists and their critics is that the scientists know what they're doing.

[Baron von Richthofen]

:atom: I personal think the experiment will cause a rip in the space time continuum because it will create exotic particles which can not exist in our universe

[Zaps]

But of course.

[sjastro]

The Earth has been subjected to proton bombardment for at least 4 billion years using energies that make the LHC look insignificant.

The protons are in the form of cosmic rays.

So much for the doomsayers.

Steven

[Baron von Richthofen]

:lol::rofl::rofl:
That's not the impression I got when I was working with them it was the opposite

[Zaps]

Just because you had no idea what they were talking about doesn't mean that they didn't.

[Jeff]

Excellent plot for a time-spliced sci-fi movie. :thumbsup:

[Esseth]

"Shall I refuse my dinner because I do not fully understand the process of digestion?" Oliver Heaviside (1850-1925) English physicist.

What people forget is, while the LHC is newest and biggest hadron collider built so far... it is far from the first they have been around since the 70's.
As the saying goes, nothing in life in certain.

As for your vote, well i don't ever recall the planet ever voting on a single issue, i guess the UN could have a vote of some sort? Or maybe it's an issue that the people that actually understand the full physics that are in play are the ones that should make the decision.

I my self would love to die in such a way, and I mean this in the least emo way possible, as the earth being sucked into a black hole or a gamma ray burst. We all die, but it really would make the last few moments something special ;)


Who knows maybe they will crank it up to full power on December 21, 2012?

[Nesti]

OMG!!! :eyepop::eyepop::eyepop:

Steven & Carl

Please turn to page 120 and read the section on "Floating Point Future" (FPF).

And then, page 149 on "Floating Point Future Processing" (FPFP).

Finally, read chapter called 'History in the Making' on page 150...read until end of section on Aharanov's " Time-Symmetry in Quantum Mechanics". I describe the process in detail.

This is insane...this is what I have written would happen. That the hidden variable (value derived from freedom of choice interference) would override deterministic properties, with the FPFP of particles, in order to create and preserve the " formation of a stable reality".

You've got to be joking?!

Steven, tell me that you are winding me up????? :shrug:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?bl

[Jazza11]

How can u create something that cannot exist and also when people say it would create a black hole and it would grow and kill us all, sure a black hole could but from my understanding it cannot grow and it would collapse on itself before it could do anything i believe that this experiment MUST GO ON if stephen hawking says a black hole wont kill us all i would listen to him than some hik who has been living on a farm 100km away from anyone for his whole life

[Baron von Richthofen]

Actually they stole my idea and research and when they could not complete it they asked me to finish it, I said no, so there it stopped, I could have Easley finished it, so much for scientist
I have been contacted more then once to bail them out

[DavidU]

You worked as an engineer on the LHC????

[GrahamL]

Now now ..Steve your not being fair to the thread poster by
bombarding the discourse with factual stuff :thumbsup::D:D

[Baron von Richthofen]

No another bunch of scientist, just as mad, hell bent on destroying the earth, lucky funding was cut

[JethroB76]

This is going well:lol:

[marki]

Look out I'm coming to get ya MMMWWWWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAG ;).

Mark

[multiweb]

Here you go! Now we know how the first big bang happened billions of years ago. When we develop the technology to hear the first emitted sound it will sound like something along the lines of "ssshhhhhh*****tttt!"

[avandonk]

When man reaches the magical speed of sixty miles an hour his heart will stop. This was a considered opinion from an other misinformed ignorant twit passing as a medico quite some time ago.

The same goes for any conjecture by ignorant twits who make comments about the LHC. Look into the skies you will see phenomenae far more scary than anything we can yet produce with our puny machines.

Bert

[Baron von Richthofen]

I totally agree with you, no one really knows what if anything is going to happen

[Baron von Richthofen]

Why don't we have a betting pool on what will happen winner or winners take all :D

[Nesti]

LOL...Bert, have you been on a holiday lately? :rofl:

[Robh]

Wonderful publicity! Very clever.
Is there anyone now that hasn't heard of the LHC?
Negative and fictitious offerings do so much more to raise the profile of an issue or experiment.
I'm much more excited about the whole experiment now!

Thanks for that, Rob

[renormalised]

Very interesting...deriding something like this is stepping on awfully shaky ground as we really know so little about what we're dealing with so far as theory (or reality) goes. Whilst we have a reasonable handle on the dynamics of black holes, to say that we have such a good handle on how spacetime works, or even what it is, is even more fanciful than the speculation to begin with.

They maybe wrong, but they may also be correct in their hypothesis. There's nothing in physics which says that cause and effect have to be constrained by the flow of time. In physics, so long as the equations are obeyed and the fundamental laws are reversible (which is believed to be the case), then a cause in the future tense can have consequences in the past.

[Nesti]

Almost Carl!

If you take a measurement after an event has elapsed, you cannot project the outcome back to the start of the event by deterministic devolution. You must literally insert parameters by hand - which can only be known after the event has occurred and been measured (thus preserving the future) - into the mathematics to allow that to happen. Likewise, an event starting point cannot give us a realistic answer simply by allowing the event to evolve according to deterministic laws…the history vectors do not match the destiny vectors.

This means that two experiments setup to be exactly the same, can and do evolve separate outcomes; they are never the same! How can two identical particles with identical states and values evolve differently???

As Einstein alluded to, perhaps there really is a hidden variable which we are yet to see. Although Bell showed this not to be the case, he wanted it to be true…perhaps in time this will be revised. Perhaps the LHC may find something which sheds light on the argument...perhaps it will find jack.

Both men believed that something may reside between the particles and within the space (Damn, we're almost back to relativity again).

Cheers
Mark

[Enchilada]

LHC - Large Had-it Collider ???

[renormalised]

Maybe more like "Large Hampered Collider":P:D

[marki]

Imagine if the thing stuffs up again. Still it would make a great go-kart race track ;).

Mark

[Waxing_Gibbous]

Its amazing how many people who know NOTHING about high energy particle physics or the LHC ,or the people who work there or the equipment used blindly SUPPORT the work. They assume that everyone working there must be the best of the best 'cuz they read it online or in New Scientist.
The staff could all be a bunch of drunks,crackheads and incompetent political appointees for all they know.
Remember the whole thing went ka-flooey (the precise scientific term), because of 30 cents or something worth of solder that some highly trained Phd candidate, scientist or engineer missed!
The project leader was on ABC a few weeks ago and rather blythely reported that the chances of a catastrophic event occuring with a micro-black hole was "only one in 70,000,000". You stand worse chances of winning the lottery!!!!
Bad odds in a horse race but a little too short for interdimensional shenanigans, I Think.:D
Good luck to 'em (and US) I say,but don't for one minute think that CERN is the pinnacle of objective scientific & engineering excellence with no politics, back-biting and, obdurate stupidity involved.
What makes me so sure? I did work there or rather was seconded there,for three months examining funding requests, procurement mangement and political liason.
We're all doomed.:lol:

[Zaps]

It's amazing how many people who know NOTHING about high energy particle physics or the LHC ,or the people who work there or the equipment used blindly CRITICISE the work. They assume that everyone working there must be the worst of the worst 'cuz they read it online or in the Creationist Journal.

On the other hand, those of us with science-related educations, qualifications and experience, and who have some inkling of how science and scientists work, understand much of what is going on at the LHC, CERN, Fermilab, etc. We know some of the people involved and maintain an active interest in their work and keep abreast of the literature produced.

Ignorance is the root of all fear.

[sjastro]

Are we not shakier ground to explain LHC breakdowns, suspected Al-Qaeda sympathizers, the weather and whatever else has delayed the project on a theoretical issue involving quantum mechanics and particle physics?

Apart from the causality issues it seems to be an assault on free will.

Regards

Steven

[SkyViking]

I'm definitely not in the doom-sayers' camp - but Holger Bech Nielsen is my old uni teacher in quantum mechanics. He's quite a character but a true genius, and I'm sure he knows what he's talking about. He is one of the fathers of String Theory, among other things:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holger_Bech_Nielsen

This is a wild but interesting idea, very typical of him.
And as he says himself, it's not very likely to be true.

[renormalised]

I don't think the Al-Qaeda bit and such has anything to do with QM and particle physics. That's just something which has happened and the idiot should get what he deserves. Unless there's something operating beyond the "normal" laws, which we are yet to discover, that is using its own set of rules to influence what's going on. Something operating on a level of thought/mind/consciousness beyond our level of present understanding.

Since the laws of physics can be applied in both directions of "travel" and that boundary conditions are relative to where they're placed, time itself has no meaning. Even Einstein could see that and made comment on this. Time becomes dependent on your PoV relative to the set boundaries. As far as the observed are concerned, it's an illusion. It's only real to that which makes the observation and it may be an illusion even here, as it's only being recorded by the observer from the PoV of the set boundary conditions, not from the bigger picture, so to speak. Basically, it means 'cause and effect" can run both forward and backward through "time" w.r.t. the larger scheme of things but appear to be locked into the flow of "time" w.r.t. the observer.

As far as free will goes, you may choose any outcome you like, but that doesn't mean the universe has to obey that choice:D Statistically, the probability that it will follow your lead is roughly a 50/50% chance, given enough "throws of the dice". But it may not do so for an indeterminate period of time, or numbers of throws (choices). You may be able to use your free will to influence the outcome of the event, if you're closely connected enough with the experiment/event, but even free will has its boundaries:D

[renormalised]

That's very likely the case, given what we know. It's probably right. However, since we can't be fully certain of this and we don't know enough anyway, the only way to find out is to do the experiments and test for those outcomes which either prove or disprove the case.

The best science has always come from those wild ideas:D

So have the most profound advances in both knowledge and understanding:D

[Nesti]

I’m sure everyone can imagine - as a consequence of the results coming back from experiments of electromagnetism - the ridiculous idea that space and time appear to be flexible.

If it were not for the insight of Max Planck, Einstein's "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies" may have spent years in the 'Too Hard Basket'., or worse, thrown out entirely. Einstein always praised Planck for this.

That space and time may bend merely to the whim of light is a notion of absurdity I say!!!

[rally]

Prof Nielsen has released another paper and refutes his previous conclusions

Download his latest PDF here http://arxiv.org/abs/0910.0359

It seems to be a lot of statistical propositions and assumptions based on Random card draws than a traditional Mathematical proof.

Too much for me !

Rally

[renormalised]

You watch what happens....they'll find a few more things and he'll change his mind again!!!. Always happens:P:D

[Nesti]

Ahhh, the slippery trickery continues.

Any publicity is good publicity I guess.

[renormalised]

How's this for a good reason to sabotage the LHC...in the future, a run on the LHC opens up a stable wormhole into another spacetime. Unbeknown to us, a malevolent group of entities which inhabit the other spacetime try to cross over to ours to wreak havoc, but group of multidimensional beings in our own spacetime cause the hole to collapse and send a surge of energy back through time to now, where it causes glitches and accidents in the LHC, to prevent them from generating the hole in the future:P:P:D:D

[multiweb]

Yeah... and with that time shift business, all bets are off, unless you push the right buttons... :confuse3:... could be interesting - rebrand it from LHC to TAB. :lol:

[sjastro]

Don't worry about it. It's appears to be written in classic Jinglish (given the co-author is Japanese.)
Words invented (eg "miraculocity"), poor grammar etc.

I know having struggled with Japanese scientific and engineering documents translated into English for nearly 20 years.

The document is not terribly convincing, but not having the original article doesn't help.

Steven

[renormalised]

Much like papers from the U.S., written in Yanklish. Wonder what would happen if you combined Jinglish and Yanklish in a academic paper??:P:P:D:D

Sounds almost Chinese...."Jianklish":P:P:D:D

( Although, technically that would by "Xianklish":P:D )

[sjastro]

[QUOTE=renormalised;508720]Much like papers from the U.S., written in Yanklish. Wonder what would happen if you combined Jinglish and Yanklish in a academic paper??:P:P:D:D

/QUOTE]

Obviously you would get Yin and Yang.:lol::lol::lol:

[AlexN]

What a laugh.. :)

And to think, Humans thought we'd passed the dark ages where science was seen as heresy... Now, its not the church trying to stop science, nay, God himself is traversing time to impede scientific advancement...

I love what Bert quoted, and its so true, so many people dont want to see the LHC running... They fear it. As its been since the dawn of time, people fear what they dont understand. Yet clearly, these people do not fear the idea of eating, despite the fact they have no idea exactly how their body breaks food down, turns it to energy and consumes the energy that is created.

The LHC is not something to be feared.. Rather, something to be revered.. How is it bad for mankind to strive to understand the nature of our own existence, How everything came to be.. Its pure non-sense. Yes, the LHC could create a black hole... and that is not something to be afraid of... Its exciting. We're not talking a black hole of the magnitude of the ones we detect in space... we're talking about micro black holes.. teency weency little ones.. The LHC will re-define human understanding of the universe..

Hubble was no different... It was a machine built by humans to gain a better understanding of the universe. It took some time to get it operating exactly the way it was supposed to, and since then, we've learnt SO much about the universe.. The LHC will have teething problems as any large scale machine/experiment dedicated to understanding things humans can not yet fathom.. And when it is fully operational, and the bugs are ironed out, like hubble, it will teach us so much, and the doom sayers can be wrong once again...

If, by some ridiculous chance something goes catastrophically wrong, and we all get swallowed up by a black hole the size of a few atoms, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong, But I'll still say, Better to die having attempted to understand than live in ignorance.

[renormalised]

But would it be truly balanced??:P:D

[seanliddelow]

Perhaps the scientests at the LHC are trying to 'warp' Higgs Bosons so they can stop the time ripple and create the Higgs Boson in the first place. Its doesnt seem it has workd yet. Perhaps they can reverse the 2012 'catastrophe' or maybe they are making it worse. Looks like a case for the X-Files........... :rolleyes:

Crap, I think im turning into a nutjob:rofl:.

[Nesti]

A modern-day Excalibur; perhaps only ‘The Chosen One’ may press the almighty button…


It is stuck in the rock ya know!!!


Where's Ron Howard????

[Paul Hatchman]

Dave,
You are just trading one kind of uncertainty for another. You are making an implicit assumption that the knowledge gained from the LHC is not useful for saving or vastly improving the planet in the future. By *not* doing the experiments we may lack the information required to prevent something untoward from happening to the planet.

As far as I can see, the LHC has gone through many different reviews where all of these concerns have been addressed and we just aren't doing anything with the LHC that doesn't already happen in nature. To me, there is more of a risk not to do it.

Cheers,

Paul.

[dpastern]

Paul - the planet has survived for aeons without our human intervention. I argue that nature doesn't need mankind to tell it how to survive. And I'd be right. We still have very little understanding of evolution, of nature, and we could spend a LONG while studying and still not come much closer imho.

I'll quote George Mallory:

"because it's there"

and it cost him his life. Man is pretending to be a God, and to know the secrets of the Gods (to coin a phase). Remember the tale of Icarus? Of Arachne?

Dave

PS I'm not a Catholic btw, so no single God comes into play in my eyes. I'm not really what most people would call a religious nutto either. I'm fairly grounded, but cautious.

[avandonk]

Any black hole that is putatively created by the LHC would be so small that it's life would be cut very short by Hawking Radiation. A bit like the particles that appear fleetingly everywhere that gives empty space a dielectric constant that can be measured. It is called the Casimir Effect.

Please remember there are only two rules in the Universe

1. There is no free lunch.
2. If anything sounds to good to be true, it is not.

There are also only two real sins.

1. Ignorance.
2. Hipocrisy.

Most sins are a combination of both!

Bert

[renormalised]

To paraphrase J.B.S. Haldane, "The Universe is not only queer, it's queerer than we can suppose"...LHC, watch this space.

[dpastern]

To quote Dave:

"I'd rather not take the chance and potentially gamble with everyones lives in order to prove I'm right".

Dave

[avandonk]

I am trying to come to grips with the absurd assertion that man can even play at being god. Let me get this correct. If I want to do something that is beyond the understanding or comprehension of another man then I am magically elevated to a pseudo god.

I can see the connection as gods were invented to explain what was not understood.

I will leave you all to join the dots.

Bert

[renormalised]

Or, you could say this..."Any sufficiently advanced technology will seem like magic". Maybe it's better to be a magician...it's more fun in any case:D:D

[Nesti]

"God" made us in his image. Monkey see, monkey do...

Cheers
Mark

[Paul Hatchman]

Hi Dave,

You miss my point. It is not the planet, but humans that will need this technology to survive. It only takes one stray rock and we will not even be a footnote in the history of the planet.

Let me jump into sci-fi land here for a moment. Perhaps the LHC's discovery of the higgs boson would let us create an artifical mass that enbales us to deflect a future earth-bound asteroid.

So, I still say that your position could well be damning human kind to destruction.

Cheers,

Paul.

[Paul Hatchman]

But you are. You are just taking a different gamble.

Cheers,

Paul.

[taminga16]

The pages of the past are filled with detailed accounts from pessimists.

"Behold the turtle, for he only makes progress when he sticks his neck out."

Greg. (I'm excited, with apologies).

[Nesti]

Oh my, Cosmic Carson Kressley in da house.

The fabric of spacetime resides in a fashionable universe. OH THAT'S JUST GREAT!!!

:P